Antenora
Detriment Deleter
Fiendish Philologist
Put down that harpoon gun, in the name of these wonderful birds!
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Post by Antenora on Oct 4, 2004 21:07:33 GMT -5
Who are "they"?
And there's not a single liberal in the world who enjoys dirtbiking and/or snowboarding? My history teacher is a flaming liberal, and she's into dirtbikes.
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Post by Soidanae on Oct 5, 2004 16:59:09 GMT -5
My employer's a flaming liberal and loves to kayak.
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Post by Charles Vane on Oct 5, 2004 20:01:27 GMT -5
I'm liberal.. but sometimes I don't seem that way because I try to portray conservatives fairly. If one of my friends is talking unfairly about Rubpublicans I say something to try to get them to see things from a different point of view so they think I'm a republican. Like when I said not all republicans are bad and I got knifes pointed at my face.
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Post by redwine with valium on Oct 5, 2004 20:18:44 GMT -5
Ya'll are probably vegatarian weenies who dont like SUVs wants guns banished. Want us all to eat soy, and drive solor powerd cars... I'm conservative. Sportmens for bush Liberal Weenies for kerry You're not assuming so much as stereotyping, and that's even more annoying. Please stop. Remember, this is an "intelligent conversation" zone. Did I tell you all that I finally decided which political party I shall choose to be affiliated with? It is.........drumroll please......LIBERTARIAN!! I honestly think that many other people here are actually libertarian, they just don't know that they are. That's how I was, at least. Their overriding conviction: Keep the government out of our private lives!! So they're for small government, but I think they're for gay marriage as well. Sort of a nice in-between. And not as hypocritical as republicans or democrats (and I mean that in the least-stereotypical way possible )
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Post by Soidanae on Oct 5, 2004 20:27:58 GMT -5
...Wow. You were slightly more conservative earlier. And thank god you're here, you're a reasonable one.
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Post by redwine with valium on Oct 6, 2004 20:08:23 GMT -5
...Wow. You were slightly more conservative earlier. And thank god you're here, you're a reasonable one. Yeah, I was slightly more conservative. I've decided that while I personally don't agree with gay marriage, that's no reason to make it illegal. And I'm becoming more fond of you the more I post. How surprising. And what about the whole "legalize pot" thing? Apparently libertarians are for it, but I'm not quite sure. I mean, it would put a lot of drug dealers out of business, but still, do we want to make it even easier for people to ruin their lives? Or is it their right to ruin their own lives? It just keeps going in circles.....
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Post by Soidanae on Oct 6, 2004 20:25:58 GMT -5
Legalizing pot, I'm not sure about-on one hand, it could be regulated more easily, and have the same restrictions as tobacco and alcohol, or at least similiar....
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Post by redwine with valium on Oct 6, 2004 20:39:59 GMT -5
Legalizing pot, I'm not sure about-on one hand, it could be regulated more easily, and have the same restrictions as tobacco and alcohol, or at least similiar.... And on the other hand?
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Post by Soidanae on Oct 6, 2004 20:45:11 GMT -5
Well... it's pot. Those frying pans are DEADLY WEAPONS!
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Post by Whales on Oct 7, 2004 9:26:19 GMT -5
*Sigh* Late as usual.
I think of myself more as a liberal than anything else, but a lot of what I had to say on the subject has already been said, generally in a more intelligent style than I could ever hope to emulate.
However, I would like to say that the way I define myself has nothing to do with my political affiliations. I don't support the Liberal party in England, because they have certain policies I don't believe in. My definition of liberal is simply to be open-minded and to never wave away any point of view without due consideration of it first.
The legalising pot issue is a sore point with me. I don't believe pot should be illegal whilst other (sometimes more harmful) substances are legal. My line is that pot, alcohol and tobacco should all have their own class of legislation. They should all be legal, but there should be extremely stringent controls. Which isn't to say I think drinking is necessarily a bad thing, I just think that it should be treated with as much wariness as doing pot.
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Post by BMatt on Oct 7, 2004 9:44:28 GMT -5
My definition of liberal is simply to be open-minded and to never wave away any point of view without due consideration of it first. Well said, my son.
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Post by redwine with valium on Oct 7, 2004 18:40:20 GMT -5
* However, I would like to say that the way I define myself has nothing to do with my political affiliations. I don't support the Liberal party in England, because they have certain policies I don't believe in. My definition of liberal is simply to be open-minded and to never wave away any point of view without due consideration of it first. The legalising pot issue is a sore point with me. I don't believe pot should be illegal whilst other (sometimes more harmful) substances are legal. My line is that pot, alcohol and tobacco should all have their own class of legislation. They should all be legal, but there should be extremely stringent controls. Which isn't to say I think drinking is necessarily a bad thing, I just think that it should be treated with as much wariness as doing pot. Yep, the bit on pot sounds right to me. But the definition of liberal....while that is a wonderful concept, in practice that isn't the definition of liberal at all, at least when it comes to politics. I know many liberals who are just as closed-minded as their conservative counterparts.
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Post by Whales on Oct 8, 2004 15:49:55 GMT -5
But I think that is a misnomer of the party, rather than a bad definition of liberalism. Having an open mind is the main concept of the philosophy of liberalism, even if it isn't the main concept of the Liberal party.
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Post by negativenine on Oct 8, 2004 16:01:09 GMT -5
I picked communist, because in a perfect world/in the future, I'd like us to be communist. I don't think it'll work now, and I don't know if it CAN work in the sense that countries have tried to make it work so far.
So, practically I'm a liberal, but ideally I'm a communist/socialist.
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Post by redwine with valium on Oct 15, 2004 13:49:51 GMT -5
But I think that is a misnomer of the party, rather than a bad definition of liberalism. Having an open mind is the main concept of the philosophy of liberalism, even if it isn't the main concept of the Liberal party. But I'm not comparing philosophies, I'm comparing realities.
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