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Post by asleia on Nov 30, 2004 22:53:41 GMT -5
Yes, you know superficial good looks are a definite qualifier of heroic abilities.
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Post by BANNED on Dec 1, 2004 15:11:41 GMT -5
In the movie I'd say samwise but I'd say frodo in the books
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Post by asleia on Dec 2, 2004 0:01:22 GMT -5
In the movie I'd say samwise but I'd say frodo in the books I could not agree with you more.
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Post by Ennui on Dec 3, 2004 14:27:42 GMT -5
Well...just as the whole book is on many levels, there are many sorts of hero.
The warrior-hero, in the old Nordic sense, fiercely focussed on battle-prowess and honour, (in some respects LOTR shows that the time for this kind of hero is past, but he is admired all the same) would be Eomer, for his berserk death-dealing at Pellenor, closely followed by Boromir.
The chivalric heroes, drawn from amour courtois romance, nobles who go through knightly errands and win happiness and their lady: Aragorn, Merry, Pippin, and oddly, rather than Faramir, Eowyn. (It is she who does the winning.)
The spiritual hero, the central hero, the "main" hero: undoubtedly Frodo.
The Everyman folklore hero, the ordinary man who proves himself: Sam.
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Post by TvSkater on Dec 5, 2004 20:20:21 GMT -5
What about Pippin and Merry?
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Dec 5, 2004 21:23:24 GMT -5
They are somewhat heroes. Pippin lit the beacons(in the movie not in the books) and saved faramir plus merry murdered the witch king but gandalf could have done any of those things with ease. He was just distracted.
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Post by asleia on Dec 5, 2004 22:13:05 GMT -5
They are somewhat heroes. Pippin lit the beacons and saved faramir plus merry murdered the witch king but gandalf could have done any of those things with ease. He was just distracted. I was distracted also, otherwise I would have been the hero.
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Dec 7, 2004 21:18:40 GMT -5
I'm sure. How were you distracted? Were you stopping the lord of the city from burning his son alive?
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Post by Ennui on Dec 11, 2004 1:36:37 GMT -5
*weeps in frustration* Pippin...did not...light...the beacons...
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Dec 11, 2004 20:11:17 GMT -5
No not in the books he didn't. I correct myself then, according to the movies he lit the beacons but since the movies mess lots of stuff up we'll leave that topic alone<withdraws previous comment>
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Post by LiamsBookworm on Dec 15, 2004 11:04:07 GMT -5
Definitely Frodo. Of course he wouldn't have made it without Sam, Aragorn, Gandalf, and all the others; but he's the one who ultimately destroyed the Ring. It's true that it overcame him in the end, but his wisdom in being compassionate toward Gollum earlier shone through at that point. And anyone who says that Gollum is the hero is simply ignorant, because it was only fate that Gollum's weakness saved them.
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Post by Spok on Dec 15, 2004 11:53:05 GMT -5
the rork extended looks great!! it's like 5 hours long!! *whistles
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Post by LiamsBookworm on Dec 16, 2004 13:10:06 GMT -5
Umm....actually, it's only 4 hr. 10 min. Sad, I know.
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Dec 16, 2004 21:02:18 GMT -5
I still stand by gandalf. He made all of this possible even if it was just frodo and sam in the mountain at the end.
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Post by faramir1994 on Dec 18, 2004 7:18:23 GMT -5
I still stand by gandalf. He made all of this possible even if it was just frodo and sam in the mountain at the end. [glow=rainbow,2,300]DITTO!!![/glow]
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