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Post by Dante on Nov 5, 2009 11:39:38 GMT -5
Well, it has just occurred to me that we may start getting information about the new books before the official launch of their promotion through things like interviews with Snicket - but they might not really start up again until the promotional efforts do. I do think we'll be given lots to anticipate, though, both before and during the new series.
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Post by Christmas Chief on Nov 5, 2009 18:09:01 GMT -5
I just think it's going to be really fun to see the theories when we have official (or unofficial, even) information to go off of.
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Post by Dante on Nov 6, 2009 3:07:02 GMT -5
Yeah, I agree. We know literally nothing about the new series right now apart from a projected release date and the number of books in that series, so there's really barely anything we can say - we can only speculate on things we might one day be able to speculate about, it's kinda silly. I guess that's a point, though. What's everyone's opinion on the new series being only four books long? That's a lot shorter than aSoUE, but consider also that your average book series these days is a trilogy, and they manage just fine.
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Post by Christmas Chief on Nov 6, 2009 16:02:42 GMT -5
We also don't know how long those four books are going be- it could be the ASOUE average of three hundred pages, to eight hundred pages, and then you have to factor in font, and page size, and by then- since we still can't answer any of these questions- all we can do is wait and see. Unless, of course, something slips.
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Post by Dante on Nov 6, 2009 16:43:35 GMT -5
Of course, aSoUE's individual volumes were not only relatively short, they were in a relatively large font. If you reduced the font size and remixed them, how many volumes would they occupy then? I do anticipate that the new books will be rather longer - or rather, comparable to the later books in aSoUE in length, at least. But you're quite right that we can only guess.
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Post by Tiago James Squalor on Nov 6, 2009 18:11:41 GMT -5
My guess is that the new series won't follow the 13 chapter structure, maybe a new 40 chapter structure for each installment?That'd make 160 chapters, pretty close to the number of chapters in ASoUE.
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Post by Dante on Nov 7, 2009 7:01:50 GMT -5
I think most series don't have any kind of rule on how many chapters they have. If Snicket ditches the thirteen-chapter rule - which I expect he probably will, since the new series doesn't have thirteen books - then I'd expect an average and inconstant number of chapters. Of course, how many to expect depends on the written style. Some books have new chapters every couple of pages; others have chapters that'd take up most of a normal book. Depends on length, too. I wouldn't want to guess as it depends too much on what the actual story is like. But completely offhand, I'd wager slightly more than your average aSoUE book. These new books could come as complete shocks to the system because we're so used to how aSoUE does things. That'll be fun.
Edit: Actually, what'd be really fun would be if the first book tried to trick us into thinking everything was the same as aSoUE, and then completely blew it apart. That'd be amazing. But again - depends on the story. Depends on if Handler is continuing aSoUE, reacting to aSoUE, or just going completely out on a limb with something new.
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Post by Christmas Chief on Nov 7, 2009 8:26:35 GMT -5
I'd wager slightly more than your average aSoUE book. That's what I'd say. If he's only doing four, I doubt they'll be as short as an ASOUE book. I think it'll be fun either way- an entire new style that we're not used to, or the typical Snicket-writing that we can compare and contrast to. Which aspect are you referring to when you say everything being the same as ASOUE? Plot, style, characters... Or, it could be a little bit of all three.
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Post by Dante on Nov 7, 2009 14:42:18 GMT -5
Which aspect are you referring to when you say everything being the same as ASOUE? Plot, style, characters... Like, maybe, it looks like it has thirteen characters, the main characters are introduced as a bunch of miserable tormented orphans, etc., but then at the end there's another chapter and it skips to them being adults and they're mad scientists now. Something like that. Essentially, Handler messing with our heads.
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Post by Jessica Snicket on Nov 7, 2009 23:54:15 GMT -5
They will probably be longer than a regular ASOUE installment I would guess, since there will only be four of them. And who knows, maybe Handler will decide to write more books for the series as time goes on, or perhaps he'll write spin-off books like he did with ASOUE.
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Post by Dante on Nov 8, 2009 4:28:14 GMT -5
Yeah, a four-book series needs expanding more than a thirteen-book one does (especially one which already has two spin-offs). Although four is still longer than the median series length, a trilogy. And if it takes place in the aSoUE universe itself, whether directly engaging with the original or existing some way off, it'll count as an expansion itself. I'm still betting on something completely fresh, though, looking at the example of the books Handler's written under his own name - none of them have anything to do with each other, although they share a few stylistic features.
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Post by Christmas Chief on Nov 8, 2009 12:55:31 GMT -5
I think it would be neat if he wrote some part of the series- a prolouge, maybe- of how he finds the things he reasearched. Something like how he came across them, how he gets from place to place. Something first person, maybe.
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Post by Dante on Nov 8, 2009 15:49:06 GMT -5
That would be pretty neat! We only really get fragments of Lemony's life, usually comic, so a prologue or epilogue describing his wanderings and interviews would be interesting - at once sticking to and deviating from some of the conventions of the series. The Egmont press release does suggest that he'll be sticking to the "researching a case that really happened" aspect of things, although it could just be for promotional purposes.
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Post by Dante on Nov 8, 2009 17:13:45 GMT -5
I'm less certain about that. By the end of the series, we knew almost too much about Lemony, V.F.D., etc. The whole story might actually be pretty boring because we can already infer most of it. I'd be happy with just the odd interlude describing Lemony roaming around abandoned museums or something. But of course, the actual books may feature no such thing whatsoever. By 2012 we could've written our own sequels.
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Post by Tiago James Squalor on Nov 8, 2009 17:14:36 GMT -5
Perhaps a prequel to ASoUE telling the story of Olaf's life? Yeah, I don't think so either. XD
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