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Post by Christmas Chief on Mar 7, 2012 21:10:28 GMT -5
This illustration was probably drawn previously to the seahorse picture. This picture of the woman looks as though it was drawn by someone who was around five years old at least. The seahorse looks as though it was drawn afterwards. I don't know if we have enough information to start organizing these chronologically, but we might try to draw up a list of similarities. They're both drawn at an amateur level, for example, and colored.
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Post by bryan on Mar 7, 2012 21:11:17 GMT -5
Could the name be an anagram? I couldn't figure anthing out... It could translate to "lifelong intent" but I don't know if that means much.
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Post by Christmas Chief on Mar 7, 2012 21:17:12 GMT -5
Could the name be an anagram? I couldn't figure anthing out... That's one suggestion. Coded anagrams were almost certainly something students learned in V.F.D. It only occurred to me that these may be THE wrong questions (although I guess that was obvious...). I doubt they'll be the book titles, but might they be chapter titles perhaps? At first I thought the questions were indeed all wrong, and they'd be the very questions with which we're left at the end of the novel. I haven't entirely ruled it out.
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Post by Dante on Mar 8, 2012 4:31:55 GMT -5
It seems that the wrong questions in ATWQ are wrong in the sense that they shouldn't have to be asked, in a just world. Lemony shouldn't have to worry about stolen statues and Ellington Feint. On the other hand, "Who is Ellington Feint?" might be a wrong question if EF doesn't actually exist. I don't think these are chapter titles, although I do think they'll come up in the text. I think that using them as questions is just a promotional gimmick to get us thinking. The thing about a question is that it can tell us a lot without telling us anything really important. That's why they're good advertising. Here's an automatically generated list of anagrams for "Ellington Feint." There are over seven thousand - too many to reasonably process all of them, and for that many letters you're always likely to get an anagram. But some might be interesting nonetheless. You also have to take into account that it could be an anagram of another name, which the anagram program wouldn't be able to predict.
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Post by B. on Mar 8, 2012 15:48:18 GMT -5
If this is indeed a line from WCTBATH (or any of the other books) then can we assume the series will be told in first person? Unless, of course this is part of a letter, dialogue, diary entry or other document.
EDIT: Interesting anagram list....though I highly doubt the secret of Ellington Feint is "get online flint."
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Post by soufflé on Mar 8, 2012 16:04:35 GMT -5
The anagram idea is interesting and I think we should keep it in mind for the future
However, I don't think this is the solution in this situation.
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Post by Antenora on Mar 8, 2012 16:30:08 GMT -5
I can think of two reasons why Ellington Feint isn't likely to be an anagram: First, it's a relatively long name consisting mostly of letters which are common in English. As Dante noted above, there are thousands of possible anagrams, and it would be surprising of none of them contained words that were potentially relevant (I see that "letting felon in" is one, and that has a clear connection to the book title...). But the sheer number of possible anagrams is arguably evidence against the name being an anagram, because how could Snicket rely on us to find the intended solution out of the thousands possible? Second, the name doesn't look like an anagram. Consider the actual anagrams we've seen in the Series: all contain made-up names like Funcoot, Rirger, or Bleediotie. Whereas Ellington is a real (if uncommon) name and Feint is a real word. Also, this page says that Ellington is sometimes a female name, for whatever that's worth. So it could refer to the girl in the picture. A girl named Ellington is no weirder than a boy named Lemony, really.
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Post by bryan on Mar 8, 2012 20:59:44 GMT -5
how could Snicket rely on us to find the intended solution out of the thousands possible? I actually doubt the anagram idea too, but to be fair, maybe we're not necessarily supposed to be able to determine the anagram yet. This is after all a promotion for the book, and Ellington Feint is likely to be in the book, so if it were an anagram, the correct solution would probably hinted at in the actual book.
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Post by Dante on Mar 9, 2012 5:18:59 GMT -5
Just to suggest something on a related matter: As Antenora's personal text should remind us, the promotions have so far given us a "why" and a "who." Although it'll take a third promo to really establish a proper pattern, it seems likely that we might have six promos, each focussing on a WH question - that is to say, the ones we have remaining are Where, When, What, and How. And I think it's pretty easy to think of questions for those as we've already encountered many questions beginning with those words - just look at the two titles for each chapter in the U.A. If there are only six promos, whether weekly or not, I would suspect they're building up to the LSATWQ site opening for real, since right now it still only shows the same sign-up page for the e-mails.
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Post by B. on Mar 9, 2012 6:50:38 GMT -5
I would suspect they're building up to the LSATWQ site opening for real, since right now it still only shows the same sign-up page for the e-mails. Like the promotion for book 12? I don't think Ellington Feint is an anagram, either. When names were anagrams they usually always sounded a bit odd, like Al funcoot or Laura V Bleediotie. Also, I don't think they would use the same in the new series, as it'll need something to distinguish it from ASOUE. I doubt we'll see anagrams used as much as they were previously; remeber if Lemony is a child the schism should've just begun.
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Post by Hermes on Mar 9, 2012 7:44:49 GMT -5
But what this made me realise secondly is that Ellington Feint has both a first name and a last name - something which not that many ASoUE characters have. This seems to suggest either a slight shift in writing style to give more importance to full names, or that EF is rather important as a character.. It's an interesting point that a lot of characters in ASOUE have only either a first name for a last name - and some, like Sir, have neither; but there are quite a few exceptions, some of them not that important - Georgina Orwell, for instance, or Geraldine Julienne. So I don't know how much we can learn from this. On another note: Feint begins with F. Possibly a relation of Fernald?
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Post by JTB on Mar 10, 2012 18:44:28 GMT -5
A thought keeps jumping out at me: what if the "wrong questions" are the ones that are asked, and the "right" questions are the ones that are not asked? For instance, the question "Who is Ellington Feint?" is the wrong question; "Who isn't Ellington Feint?" is the right question. "Why would anyone want to steal this statue?" - wrong. "Why wouldn't anyone want to steal this statue?" or "Why would anyone want to give/borrow/etc. this statue?" - right.
Just more food for thought on the matter of the lovely "wrong questions."
P.S. It's beautiful to see everyone again!
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Post by Dante on Mar 11, 2012 3:56:49 GMT -5
That's a good idea, JTB. A "wrong question" can be all sorts of things, but I don't think any of us had tried to guess what the right questions are yet. This also reveals the possibility that Ellington Feint is a hidden hand who, we suspect, could be anyone, and have to identify - or rather, Lemony would have to.
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Post by jman on Mar 11, 2012 9:28:19 GMT -5
I like JTB's idea. It might be very helpful for speculation.
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Post by Tiago James Squalor on Mar 11, 2012 10:51:12 GMT -5
I personally feel that Ellington Feint could well be a new identity taken by a character in ASoUE. While it is possible that Ellington is a newcomer to this universe, it's entirely plausible that she may be someone we already know - in disguise.
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