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Post by Dante on Jul 27, 2012 15:19:43 GMT -5
" Moxie" means aggressive enthusiasm and bravado. " Hangfire" refers to an accidental delay between the triggering and firing of a gun and figuratively to other kinds of delay.
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Post by Christmas Chief on Jul 27, 2012 15:20:50 GMT -5
Do you mean the drink? I hadn't heard of that until recently, when I cam across an online discussion of it, but then it also came up in Stephen King's 11.22.63. The drink is the origin, as I understand it, but it has apparently also come to mean " force of character, determination, or nerve." Edit: The above is also an acceptable definition.
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Post by B. on Jul 27, 2012 17:14:21 GMT -5
I took "variety of settings" to mean "places within Stain'd-by-the-Sea," the same way TPP took place in Hotel Denouement, but each floor was almost a setting of its own. Even in books with a town setting, Lake Lachrymose and Paltryville for example, we only really get a brief description of locations, and a short scene in The Anxious Clown, so it'll be good to see more in WCTBATH.
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johanna
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Post by johanna on Jul 27, 2012 17:25:05 GMT -5
What a volume of new information! A note on the bird next to the person in the library - this very much reminds me of Edgar Allen Poe's famous poem "The Raven," in which a bird flies into a writer's chamber late at night, and provokes the writer to madness and despair.
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Post by Kensicle on Jul 28, 2012 7:27:16 GMT -5
Hector - bother, bother, bother. I had just worked out an explanation of his backstory which ex-plains how he knows Lemony without being a volunteer, and now this messes it up. I'm curious; what was it?
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Post by Hermes on Jul 28, 2012 11:12:33 GMT -5
Well, it's for my fanfic, and I will probably still use it, in the hope ATWQ doesn't damage it too much, but briefly: there was an old connection between VFDepartment and VFDevotees, who used to supply them with carrier crows. At the time of the schism this connection was broken, but Hector's father kept in touch with his old VFD friends, and H met some of them when he accompanied his father to the city to get supplies.
Come to think of it, this quote doesn't actually prove H was a volunteer; he may just be someone L meets and makes an ally of in Stain'd-by-the-Sea.
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Post by B. on Jul 28, 2012 13:57:46 GMT -5
That sounds very intriguing, I look forward to reading your fanfic.
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Allyieh
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Post by Allyieh on Aug 19, 2012 3:38:13 GMT -5
When the only female character I knew of was Moxie and the opening line of “I was hired in the town and I thought the girl had nothing to do with the theft. I was wrong.” was given, I thought it meant her. But now after reading the chapters, and knowing (somewhat) about Ellington, it might point to her. Did they meet offhandedly or in such a way where there was no evidence/reason for Ellington to have suspicions on her for the theft? Is there a totally different theft that happens unrelated to the Beast (the missing paper from Qwerty)?
I like the previously mentioned idea of Ellington looking for her father, and her devious actions coming from that. Maybe she stole the artifact as leverage for information from Hangfire? Or the possibility of Hangfire being her father, or even her brother?
Maybe the Feint family has claims to the statue as well, since Sallis doesn't specify that she wants the statue back at her mansion, only that she wants it delivered to the rightful owner and to not have the Sallis name mentioned. Maybe Ellington's father is Sallis' son, and she kept her maiden name after her husband's death? Or Hangfire has relations too, if he isn't part of the Feint family at all. She definitely, even as old as she is, has ulterior involvement if she knows the mentioning of her name will produce some kind (most likely negative) of reaction. The butler was also just so cast aside, that he might come up later as well as one of those secondary characters (I highly doubt he himself is Hangfire).
I also can't wait for the eventual scenes of someone traversing through the seaweed "forest" - it's mentioned as such a terrible place to go, which obviously means that someone will be going into it, possibly with someone going after them, right? XD
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Post by Christmas Chief on Aug 19, 2012 9:36:54 GMT -5
When the only female character I knew of was Moxie and the opening line of “I was hired in the town and I thought the girl had nothing to do with the theft. I was wrong.” was given, I thought it meant her. But now after reading the chapters, and knowing (somewhat) about Ellington, it might point to her. Did they meet offhandedly or in such a way where there was no evidence/reason for Ellington to have suspicions on her for the theft? Is there a totally different theft that happens unrelated to the Beast (the missing paper from Qwerty)? Well, we know the girl can't be Moxie as Lemony wouldn't think she had nothing to do with it after her reveal of the various Beast merchandise. As for the "missing" paper from Qwerty - I'm assuming you're referring to the excerpt which references "one of those extra pages tucked in the back of a book for notes or secrets"? I don't know if the opening line refers to anything but the statue, but that isn't to say there can't be minor thefts to distract us from a larger truth. When you mention meeting Ellington offhandedly, though ... we never did learn the story behind the woman with the coin at the Hemlock from Chapter One. That's pure speculation, though; not every minor female character Lemony happens by can turn out to be Ellington Feint. There certainly is a lot of mystery surrounding to whom the statue actually belongs. If Theadora and Lemony succeed in their mission to return the statue to Sallis, will they also have returned it to its rightful owner?
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