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Post by penne on Oct 18, 2013 21:54:24 GMT -5
Do you believe a person can dislike a whole genre of music?
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Post by Poe's Coats Host Toast on Oct 18, 2013 22:16:23 GMT -5
I'm constantly surprised that people can (think they) dislike quite several genres of music (jazz, classical, folk, besides country, for popular examples by certain groups). Maybe it depends on the definition of "disliking" (just not caring for, or being annoyed by, or other), but I find those people usually to be just close minded (at least artistically, and to varying degrees).
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Post by BSam on Oct 18, 2013 22:21:16 GMT -5
Just because they are the worst two genres, doesn't mean there isn't something redeemable about each of them.
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Post by bandit on Oct 18, 2013 22:29:04 GMT -5
I have never heard a country song that I've liked, nor do I think country musicians are talented. On the other hand, I don't like rap either, but I can recognize people who really are very good at rapping.
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Post by Poe's Coats Host Toast on Oct 18, 2013 23:06:46 GMT -5
Oh, and besides "genre" being quite a vague term in many ways. It can be quite specific and extremely far reaching. If you get specific enough I definitely have quite a number of genres I dislike as well (Euro-trance, ska, as ex.). And bandit, it seems like you're talking about a single aspect of those genres, namely vocal performance, and not the rest. Consider this: would you say it requires more talent to write the lyrics (and the music) to Bob Dylan's Lay Lady Lay or Johnny Cash's The Man Comes Around or Sheryl Crows' Redemption Day... or to rattle down crude rhymes really fast over a single sample off a pre-existing song like in Kendrick Lamar's Rigamortis? (I chose Rigamortis because it does feature impressive rapping skills.) It's a different story is what I mean. Furthermore, do you think f.ex. being able to play incredible, fast and complex shred guitar in a metal song, which requires a lot of skill, makes for a better song than a simple but emotional blues song, like B.B. King's The Thrill is Gone? I wouldn't throw around the word talent as lightly, or be that quick to judge a whole genre.
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Post by bandit on Oct 18, 2013 23:40:47 GMT -5
And bandit, it seems like you're talking about a single aspect of those genres, namely vocal performance, and not the rest. Consider this: would you say it requires more talent to write the lyrics (and the music) to Bob Dylan's Lay Lady Lay or Johnny Cash's The Man Comes Around or Sheryl Crows' Redemption Day... or to rattle down crude rhymes really fast over a single sample off a pre-existing song like in Kendrick Lamar's Rigamortis? (I chose Rigamortis because it does feature impressive rapping skills.) I don't particularly care about vocal performance; while Bob Dylan isn't that good a singer in my opinion, I'm sure the vocals wouldn't bother me if his songs had lyrics I found noteworthy. Whereas a rap song like Eminem's Lose Yourself is very well-composed.
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Post by Poe's Coats Host Toast on Oct 19, 2013 0:33:59 GMT -5
My friend, then you haven't listened to the lyrics of the many great songs of Dylan's. He is one of the greatest lyricists in music history. Of course, since I don't know how old you are, maybe it's something to do with your age, as they say that appreciation of poetry (or some forms of it) often comes when you grow up. It's true that he isn't a particularly good singer though (but I still like to use "One More Cup of Coffee" as a counter-argument whenever somebody brings up his lack of singing abilities).
On a side note, I've really dug Eminem for a while when I was younger and still appreciate his stuff pre-2005. But the merit in his music lies in his rhyming abilities, which are sick, and after that the production, meaning well-used samples usually (arranged with the help of his pal Dr. Dre, so he doesn't really have to write a lot of actual music), not really in the composition of his songs. Like Lose Yourself, they're usually just following the verse-chorus-verse-chorus formula, so there's not much going on there. (I'm not going to compare Eminem and Dylan though, because that'd be ridiculous.)
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Post by bandit on Oct 19, 2013 0:43:38 GMT -5
I know I sound super arrogant in criticizing acclaimed musicians, but all I can say is that I really dislike all the country music I've heard. I guess I'll leave it at that, as I don't want to make a fool of myself in trying to form my opinions.
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Post by Poe's Coats Host Toast on Oct 19, 2013 0:51:38 GMT -5
You not liking it is definitely fair enough, I was just trying to challenge your opinion on the talent needed for this or that genre. Moreover, as you can see I really like Dylan, so don't worry about sounding arrogant, everyone's entitled to their opinion and can stay buds.
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Post by BSam on Oct 19, 2013 1:18:33 GMT -5
I think most of us can agree that we don't like rapists.
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Post by Isadora Is a Door on Oct 19, 2013 2:08:49 GMT -5
I don't really care what genre any msuic is, and i tend to like a bti of everything. So no, i dont dislike one particular genre
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Post by B. on Oct 19, 2013 3:14:58 GMT -5
I'm not a genre snob; general rule of thumb is that if i like how it sounds i'm listening.
If you don't really like country/rap, Bandit, then what do you like listening to?
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Post by B. on Oct 19, 2013 3:17:05 GMT -5
Lets turn this into a friendly, non-aggressive discussion about our favourite music genres, guys!!!
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Post by Kit's tits kick ticks on Oct 19, 2013 5:34:56 GMT -5
I personally don't like to listen to rap for example, but I understand that the people who make the music I don't like are talented too.
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Post by penne on Oct 19, 2013 8:27:37 GMT -5
I think the only kind of music I really will not listen to is the one where the vocalists scream the lyrics throughout the song. I think there's a genre called screamo but I'm not 100% sure that's the one. The name screamo is quite suggestive though.
Edit: Just to make it clear, I can take some screaming in the songs I like and even enjoy it sometimes. What I mean is the type of music that seems to be based on the shouting. I don't know.
I guess it isn't one specific genre. Maybe it's just badly performed screaming?
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