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Post by A comet crashing into Earth on Oct 7, 2014 17:21:16 GMT -5
Come to thnk of it, perhaps its plot relevance was foreshadowed a bit when it was mentioned by name in ?2 - I don't think any of the other literary references are just given away like that. Turns out I was wrong. I was 19 and a bit, and I was wrong, though not about all of it:
"If you want a good school story," I said, "try The Children's Hour." (SYBIS, p. 63)
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Post by Dante on Oct 8, 2014 7:12:52 GMT -5
Incidentally, I'm provisionally extending spoiler tags to the 14th, on the grounds that the ATWQFanart winners don't have their copies yet.
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Post by Agathological on Oct 8, 2014 11:42:31 GMT -5
What role, if any do you think Lizzie Haines will play? And where is Dame Sally? (Oh, I forgot, we having seen her full face, her eyes were covered.
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Post by Dante on Oct 8, 2014 13:41:37 GMT -5
If we're lucky, I might have something quite enjoyable indeed to share later. Fingers crossed. What role, if any do you think Lizzie Haines will play? And where is Dame Sally? (Oh, I forgot, we having seen her full face, her eyes were covered. Ellington says that she scoured Offshore Island for her father, but couldn't find him anywhere. Well, I wouldn't expect her to have found him, but this kind of implies to me that she didn't find Hangfire's secret hostage kidnap dungeon, either. He must be holding people somewhere else. The Clusterous Forest?
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Post by Agathological on Oct 8, 2014 14:13:31 GMT -5
If we're lucky, I might have something quite enjoyable indeed to share later. Fingers crossed. What role, if any do you think Lizzie Haines will play? And where is Dame Sally? (Oh, I forgot, we having seen her full face, her eyes were covered. Ellington says that she scoured Offshore Island for her father, but couldn't find him anywhere. Well, I wouldn't expect her to have found him, but this kind of implies to me that she didn't find Hangfire's secret hostage kidnap dungeon, either. He must be holding people somewhere else. The Clusterous Forest? The amount of times that thing has been mentioned, I'll be surprised if it wasn't true.
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Post by gliquey on Oct 8, 2014 16:23:46 GMT -5
The amount of times that thing has been mentioned, I'll be surprised if it wasn't true. It had certainly better play some significant role in ?4.
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Post by Kit's tits kick ticks on Oct 8, 2014 16:33:16 GMT -5
Comments from Mister M and me about chapter 3: - I didn't expect Kellar Haines to be at Hungry's
- The thing with the word for lime was very obvious for us, maybe it isn't for children, or at least for some. It will be very obvious in the German version of the book though, because the German word is Limette.
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Post by Dante on Oct 9, 2014 5:08:10 GMT -5
Comments from Mister M and me about chapter 3: - The thing with the word for lime was very obvious for us, maybe it isn't for children, or at least for some. It will be very obvious in the German version of the book though, because the German word is Limette. Unless the German version localises it differently, that is - which is possible. If there's ever a future Italian translation, they'll have to.
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Post by B. on Oct 9, 2014 15:18:23 GMT -5
*NOT A SPOILER*
I went out and bought my copy of ?3 this evening. It's a little more orange than I expected- also those of you with the british editions: do you think ?3 is ever-so-slightly taller than 2?
Edit: also if youre old(er) how do you go about buying the book? I am 16 and still approached the lady behind the till sheepishly.
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Post by Agathological on Oct 9, 2014 15:37:10 GMT -5
*NOT A SPOILER* I went out and bought my copy of ?3 this evening. It's a little more orange than I expected- also those of you with the british editions: do you think ?3 is ever-so-slightly taller than 2? Edit: also if youre old(er) how do you go about buying the book? I am 16 and still approached the lady behind the till sheepishly. It is a funny feeling; buying a book when you are considerably older than the intended audience. Luckily I bought mine about 10 secs a before the shop closed, if I was asked about it, I'd say it's a gift. a question I thought of, who is calling Theodora to do these assignments? why would V.F.D be interested in sending a person for their chaperone training in a town in th middle of nowhere to investigate a statue theft? Now we can tell Zada and Zora contacted them in book the second to investigate skip tracing, but how were they known? They barely associated with anyone in the first book, all I can think of is Hangfire telling Flammarion to tell them to contact them, but why would he put himself in that situation? Just as the same in book 3, we assume Sharon Haines contacted them but again ,why would Hangfire want them to get in the way?
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Post by Hermes on Oct 9, 2014 15:38:47 GMT -5
I'm sure you had no one in particular in mind when you asked that, Bee, but just speaking for myself I have never had any worries. I think bookshop assistants should know (at least post Harry Potter if they didn't earlier) that adults read children's books.
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Post by gliquey on Oct 9, 2014 15:42:44 GMT -5
also those of you with the british editions: do you think ?3 is ever-so-slightly taller than 2? Edit: also if youre old(er) how do you go about buying the book? I am 16 and still approached the lady behind the till sheepishly. I'm British, and ?3 doesn't fit on the Snicket section of my bookshelf, whereas ?1 and ?2 do. (I'm considering moving the Snicket stuff to the top shelf, but ASOUE has been on the second shelf for over half of my life and it might feel weird.) I think the first two are reasonable sizes, but ?3 is a bit too tall... if ?4 continues the pattern and is larger too, it'll look ridiculous. Perhaps it's worth mentioning (although I doubt it'll matter) that when I say ?3 is larger than ?2, I mean that ?3 is larger than my 2014 black-and-white-illustrations edition of ?2. I only bought and read ?2 a couple of months ago - aged 15, I was slightly aware of the fact that the books are designed for 9 years olds when I walked up to the till. But I've been reading the series since before I was 9 and will continue reading long after reaching 12.
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Post by Dante on Oct 9, 2014 16:08:06 GMT -5
My copy of the British ?3 is ever so slightly taller than ?2, too. How curious. Fortunately my special two-shelf dedicated Snicket bookcase fits it quite comfortably. (Yes, newsflash, I am a very devoted fan.) As far as buying it at the bookstore went, though, I felt reasonably comfortable about it. I felt like the staff understood. They probably get a lot of this sort of thing. a question I thought of, who is calling Theodora to do these assignments? why would V.F.D be interested in sending a person for their chaperone training in a town in th middle of nowhere to investigate a statue theft? Now we can tell Zada and Zora contacted them in book the second to investigate skip tracing, but how were they known? They barely associated with anyone in the first book, all I can think of is Hangfire telling Flammarion to tell them to contact them, but why would he put himself in that situation? Just as the same in book 3, we assume Sharon Haines contacted them but again ,why would Hangfire want them to get in the way? It's clear now that Hangfire knows all about V.F.D. It's also clear that V.F.D. occasionally take requests for investigation, but since they're not detectives, maybe they think of it more as... research. I wouldn't be surprised if V.F.D. sent Snicket and Theodora out to the back of beyond to take this case purely to get them out of the way.
As for what Hangfire wants - he wants to exploit volunteers and show them up, and that's exactly what he's been doing to Theodora. The fact that Lemony keeps on getting in the way perhaps makes it a challenge.
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Post by gliquey on Oct 9, 2014 16:27:50 GMT -5
Right, I've got my ruler out.
?1 (original 2012 version) - 18.5cm tall. ?2 (2014 reprint) - 20cm tall. ?3 (original, obviously) - 21.7cm tall.
Measurements done quickly and with a 15cm ruler so may not be exact. My books definitely increase in size by 1.5-2cm each time. It's surprising how just 3cm can make ?1 seem so very small and ?3 unusually tall. I prefer the size of ?2, although ?1 is the size of my copies of ASOUE (and TUA).
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Post by A comet crashing into Earth on Oct 9, 2014 16:57:34 GMT -5
I have the original Egmont hardcovers of both ?2 and ?3, and if there's any difference in their heights, it's really imperceptably small. I'm nineteen, and I buy Snicket books in pride. With all the stuff aimed at more well-read people than twelve-year-olds, I often need to remind myself that these books are technically aimed at children, and not at... well, me.
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