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Post by Strangely on Sept 24, 2016 20:52:15 GMT -5
Interesting. I'd never even realized there was some question to the Identical/Fraternal nature of the Quagmires.
I guess I just assumed that they were fraternal twins, but just happened to look identical except for slight gender differences (Supported by the illustration showing that they're the same except for Isadora's slightly different lips and wispier hair). Possibly too, their identical looks being compounded and exaggerated by the similar uniforms, hair styles and the fact that seemingly neither have hit puberty yet.
I will say this seems like pretty good casting. I could easily believe these two are twins (Granted it seems the hair and makeup people had a hand in that too).
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Post by Hermes on Sept 25, 2016 11:49:58 GMT -5
As far as I can remember we are never told that Duncan and Quigley are identical, only very similar (though we are told, absurdly, that Duncan and Isadora look absolutely identical). I had always taken all three to be fraternal triplets. They would have to find an actor who looked like Dylan to do it that way, of course. Didn't someone suggest somewhere that they were identical triplets, with Isadora being transgender? I like that idea, both for the representation it entails and as a relatively elegant answer to the identical-fraternal-triplets issue. That's a nice idea, but I don't think it would actually explain what it says in the text: D and I looked absolutely identical, although one was presenting as a girl and the other as a boy.
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Post by Kit's tits kick ticks on Sept 25, 2016 13:07:39 GMT -5
I always imagined the Quagmires as having darker skin. It would also be much cooler if they had picked actual twins/triplets.
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Post by Strangely on Sept 25, 2016 13:15:03 GMT -5
I always imagined the Quagmires as having darker skin. It would also be much cooler if they had picked actual twins/triplets. At times I've imagined them that way too. For the show I'm guessing the casting department had to limit actors down to those with a similar skin tone to the Baudelaire's considering one of the plot points in TAA is that they try to fill in for them. Actual twins/triplets would have been cool, but that probably would have been hard to do. After all there's not exactly an abundance of twins/triplets in the world, whittle that list down to one's who act and there's probably not a lot of options.
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Post by Dante on Sept 25, 2016 14:03:10 GMT -5
If both Duncan and Isadora had been the same gender, more of an effort might have been made to cast genuine twins - but since, despite them looking "absolutely identical," the Baudelaires never actually have any trouble telling them apart, and can instantly tell on first meeting them that one is a boy and the other is a girl, clearly some differences are not objectionable.
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Post by gliquey on Sept 26, 2016 13:52:58 GMT -5
Very interesting. My first guess would have been that they were just showing up in some kind of stinger at the end of TMM, but it sounds like they've been doing more than that. I guess they're being seeded throughout the first season rather than just abruptly turning up and becoming important in TAA, then. (Perhaps they'll even remember that Esmé's meant to be managing the Quagmire estate!) I wonder what we'll get. Friends of the Baudelaires, so the children aren't simply abandoned by everyone they ever knew after their parents' death? Shots of their family life pre-fire? The Quagmire fire must happen quite soon after TRR, so maybe we'll get that? Hmmm... I don't mind changes to the plot but I'm not sure I'd like the Quagmires to be introduced so early on in the series. I'd enjoy snippets of the Quagmire fire, of Quigley's escape and maybe Duncan/Isadora meeting with Esme or being sent to boarding school, but if they were friends of the Baudelaires before the fire, I think I'd dislike that. Although I would love it if Ben (Violet's friend mentioned in TEE; I think that's his name) turned up somewhere. If both Duncan and Isadora had been the same gender, more of an effort might have been made to cast genuine twins - but since, despite them looking "absolutely identical," the Baudelaires never actually have any trouble telling them apart, and can instantly tell on first meeting them that one is a boy and the other is a girl, clearly some differences are not objectionable. As far as I can remember we are never told that Duncan and Quigley are identical, only very similar (though we are told, absurdly, that Duncan and Isadora look absolutely identical). I had always taken all three to be fraternal triplets. I do think there may be some very subtle differences between Duncan and Isadora that the Baudelaires can recognise by sight after being acquainted with them, but is it possible that their voices are the key way to physically differentiate the two? I've checked the passage in TAA where they are introduced, and in fact they hear Duncan's voice before seeing him. Duncan also introduces Isadora as his sister, and although Lemony introduces her as "a girl" before Duncan overtly states this, the narrator's knowledge must be distinguished from the Baudelaires'. I don't believe the statement that they "looked absolutely identical" is absurd; I can't see any outright contradictions that prevent Duncan and Isadora being exactly identical (in physical appearance), and the word "looked" (as opposed to "were") leaves room for some subtle differences between the two that the Baudelaires may not spot at first glance.
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Post by Liam R. Findlay on Oct 1, 2016 1:40:04 GMT -5
I was excited to see Avi replying to someone like this on Instagram.
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Post by Isadora Is a Door on Oct 1, 2016 2:18:47 GMT -5
or maybe he just really likes emptying oil pans.
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Post by Dante on Oct 3, 2016 7:42:54 GMT -5
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Post by Esmé's meme is meh on Oct 3, 2016 8:45:26 GMT -5
We reported it too but forgot to announce it here woops. Anyway it's an IMDb announcement so...
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Post by Strangely on Oct 3, 2016 10:07:07 GMT -5
Interesting. No way of really knowing if it's true, but interesting just the same. I'm just hoping they keep Carmelita's red hair, it's hard to imagine her any other way. I'm guessing her inclusion means we'll see the Quagmire's arrival to Prefrock Prep.
It really is fascinating how under wraps they've been keeping the cast. Most of the casting we know of is due to leaks from unconfirmed sources or guesswork based on the attendance of Sonnenfield parties. This is going to be a surprising season, no doubt about it.
I'm hoping we get a trailer this month, we still haven't seen anything officially.
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Post by Esmé's meme is meh on Oct 3, 2016 14:19:10 GMT -5
As I said in the Facebook fanpage, now I believe Cobie Smulders and Taran Killam will be Esme and Jerome.
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Post by ryantrimble457 on Oct 3, 2016 17:51:56 GMT -5
I don't believe IMDb postings at all so O shan't add it here! But it's worth keeping an eye on...
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Post by alvaromolina on Oct 3, 2016 21:33:16 GMT -5
could this be the official twitter? it just got created today and they have started tweeting stuff twitter.com/unfortunate*it's definitely official, both Malina and the kid playing Duncan follow the account
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Post by Strangely on Oct 3, 2016 23:21:29 GMT -5
And so it begins...
Hopefully teasers, posters and the like are soon to follow.
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