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Post by pennyroyal on Jan 15, 2004 23:58:43 GMT -5
I'm not sure how many of you are familiar with the Straightedge movement.
Basically, it's a cooler term for drug-and-alcohol-free.
I am quite vocally, unabashedly edge.
It's really the only choice for me. I can't stand the thought of being addicted to something, and just as I hate being unbelievably incoherent when I first wake up, I don't like the idea of being drunk.
My friend Chris Spino, one of my best friends, was edge. He told me a while ago "I smoke weed... just to calm down when I've had a bad day or something"
I was disappointed. And I believe one of the best pro-edge arguments I could give is the following conversation, which I just had with him about 10 minutes ago-
monkygontoheaven: hey
Chris M Spino: my mom just found my weed
Chris M Spino: gayy
Chris M Spino: gtg
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Post by Indistinguishable Blob on Jan 16, 2004 0:12:47 GMT -5
As mentioned, "My mom found my weed" is a great opening line.
I've never been a fan of drugs/alcohol for various reasons...it breaks up families, it's expensive, I'm already dazed, clumsy and incohereant enough without a bunch of chemicals to help, I've got better things to do than sit around in jail for possesion (like sit in front of the computer and let my braincells disapperate) and
I really just can't see any real point to the whole thing in the first place.
I've always found the whole "Drinking/drugs as a way to escape" a pile of rubbish. I mean, by now, it's pretty freaking appearant that drugs cause more problems than they do relieve them. Your problems will be right there, and most likely worse, when you finally sober up.
OH, yes, and then there's also my perpetual fear of being anything like my peers.
God only knows what they're on, but keep me away from it.
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Post by Queen on Jan 16, 2004 15:31:49 GMT -5
I am straight edge. It`s a completeley personal decision. Don`t do it if you just want to get "scene points" or to sound cool. That`s lame. I don`t plan to drink ect. at a social event because unlike others, I can have fun sober.
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Post by Charles Vane on Jan 16, 2004 19:51:15 GMT -5
Give Drugs not Hugs and all that fun stuff. I agree with everybody on the drugs. As much as they can seem like they help for awhile in the end they just cause more problems, which is why people think they need more and more drugs. Besides I think I can screw up my life enough with any help. And as for llegal drugs like cigarettes I'm just too freaked out by it because of some personal expeirences. Alcohol, the cause of, and soultion too, all of lifes problems. Er aside from the Simpsons quote, I don't see whats wrong with drinking as long as you do it responsibly. And are of age of course. Swans you can drink in Canada too if you are ever there in the next few months.  |
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Post by pennyroyal on Jan 16, 2004 22:04:08 GMT -5
Okay, so do you guys plan to never drink/do drugs? Even at say a social event? Did I say that? The social aspect doesn't really change anything about it for me, just because I'm not the type who would do something just to fit in/ be accepted. I don't think that one or two drinks is a big deal. I don't think it's something I personally would want to to though. |
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Post by Charles Vane on Jan 16, 2004 22:06:53 GMT -5
Drinking at a social event isn't exactly for fitting in, well if your underage it is, but if not it's just for fun. Wouldn't at a social event be the proper time to drink?
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Post by Amphagorey on Jan 17, 2004 0:59:02 GMT -5
I am at this point (I'm only thirteen) DEFINEITLY NOT going to be doing drugs or drinking. Maybe casual drinking when if I end up liking the taste of alkihol, but not right now.
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Post by pennyroyal on Jan 17, 2004 12:03:45 GMT -5
swans-
Drugs are the main target of sXe, drinking is lumped in with it quite a bit- sex, every now and then, not that often will you see it listed as a part of being edge.
The thing about drugs in moderation is that there is risk of getting addicted from the very first joint/shot/whatever. It takes a LOT of drinking before you become "addicted" to alcohol. So I think there's a difference there... and also, if you're living with your parents, there's the risk of being caught
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Post by Queen on Jan 17, 2004 23:30:00 GMT -5
Straight Edge does have to do with not having sex, but there ia an "unless". Like say you`re married or in love.
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Post by Queen on Jan 18, 2004 0:25:27 GMT -5
It could be for anyone. It`s life-long if you`re willing for it to be. It`s just to keep you clean with a clear mind rather than getting messed up or addicted. I think it`s a good decision, but it can be a tough one. Lots of peer pressure.
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Post by negativenine on Jan 18, 2004 0:30:44 GMT -5
I think drinking is definitely okay in moderation. I'm not legally allowed to drink for two or three years (depending on if they change that law in the next little while), so I guess... whatever. I don't really like the taste of most alchohol anyway, so that's mostly why I don't drink (well, there's the legality, too). When I go to France in april, I plan to drink (the legal drinking age is 16). I won't go on wild bingeing parties, but I'll have some wine with dinner, and I'll be responsible about it. It's part of the culture...
Drinking doesn't automatically mean getting drunk every night and driving yourself into a tree and dying young.
About the drugs: I don't know. I don't do drugs, but I know people who do. At this age, I don't know anyone who does drugs and hasn't had a lot of trouble with it. A week ago, 5 people got kicked out of our school for smoking weed. Last year, a girl died from mixing drugs and alchohol. Anyway, as teenagers, I think people do have trouble being responsible. Most of the people I know who do drink and do drugs at 16 aren't being responsible. And it really screws some of them up. I won't do drugs... but I'm sure there are people who do them responsibly. I don't know if I approve of that or understand it, but it's their choice.
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Post by Tommy the Sexy on Jan 18, 2004 5:56:09 GMT -5
Drugs are bad!
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Post by Kobolos on Jan 18, 2004 12:14:03 GMT -5
you kids and your hep lingo....
PS. Jesus drank wine. Look it up.
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Post by pennyroyal on Jan 18, 2004 15:02:53 GMT -5
I know. I don't see any problem with drinking in moderation, especially when it's wine.
And hey- with all this hip lingo, kids will think "all the cool kids are doing it" and will be sort-of tricked into being drug-free. Hey, it works.
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Post by Kobolos on Jan 19, 2004 9:23:14 GMT -5
I know. I don't see any problem with drinking in moderation, especially when it's wine. And hey- with all this hip lingo, kids will think "all the cool kids are doing it" and will be sort-of tricked into being drug-free. Hey, it works. That's really a sad state of affairs... Whatever happened to realistic expectations? Whatever happened to personal responsibility? No kid was ever fooled by the anti- drug presentations at school, they were usually presented by these perky squeeky clean teens that would never be around drugs in their life anyway. I just detest this "Drugs are whack" "no hope with dope" crap that people come up with. Kid's aren't stupid. That's why the "war on drugs" failed 30 years ago when old man Nixon tried to get it going. This you must understand is coming from a social drinker (I have maybe 2 glasses of wine a year max, no beer, and yes...I only drink girly drinks . Let's move on. I have only tried smoking Marajuana once. The drugs I have done are unique and more of a novelty of the past than to just get "messed up" . See my Absinthe posts, and yes I would do Opium once. Moving on... Before we cram more "truth" down the public's throat, A first step must be a full audit of drug crime to find out the true cost to the nation. the Government should signal that they are ready to radically rethink drugs policy, including examining seriously the case for further decriminalisation on a drug-by-drug basis. It is self-defeating to make criminals out of addicts, even in the emotive cases of heroin and cocaine. A hard-headed commitment to 'what works' would win public trust and respect. Those who wish to pursue a futile war on drugs in the face of clear failure are the ones taking the soft option. Mandatory treatment for drug users seems like it would be a solution at least worth trying on a national scale. This has been tried in Arizona, where non-violent users and sellers are being sent to rehab instead of jail. This policy appears to be getting results and may be ready for a try on the national level As for keeping kids off drugs...first you have to keep their parents off them and let them be the prime example...how many behavioural problems come from the example of the primary adults in a child's life? Second, you have to trust your kids to make the right decisions...do what you can to inform them of what is out there, but hip lingo that changes every 5 years is only making it into a joke, IMHO. |
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