Re: Beatrice married who?

[amyshomegirl88]

OOH.. good theory.

[amyshomegirl88]

... as for what I think, though, you know my theory, I think that she's the Baudelaire's mother and married some guy who they thought was hteir father.

[Efogoto]

That thought is ugly and horrible, and might therefore be true. Nice one!

[Zombie-chan]

i believe she married mr. baudelaire, therefore being the bauds' mom

[DetectiveDupin]

I don't somehow.

[mel]

I am positive that Beatrice is the orphans parents. There is one huge clue that pretty much spells it out. In the THH Klaus and Sunny search the list of patients and determine that Laura Bleediotie is an anagram for Violet's name. If you work out the rest of the names on the list, you find a bunch of anagrams. There are anagrams for Lemony Snicket, Daniel Handler, Brett Helquist, etc. The very last name on the list is Carrie E. Abelabudite. If you work it out it is an anagram for Beatrice Baudelaire.

I guess Beatrice doesn't have to be the orphans mother, maybe just a relative of some type that shares their last name. But I just have a real feeling that she is their mom, and will re-emerge alive sometime before the end of the series.

[CountOlaf]

Ha, that would be the case mel, if their wasnt a flaw!

In TEE, when Jerome is talking about Mrs. Baudelaire being on mt fraught, and swooping down out of the sky... You'll note that he never really says that Mrs. Baudelaire was carried away by the whatever it was. Also, at the end of the book, there is a HUGE statue of a Red Herring.

In THH, when Carrie E. Abelabudite is mentioned, there is also a Ned H Rirger in the list, which, as we know, anagrams out to Red Herring.

Also, in LSUA, when it mentions the lead actress, Beatrice, needing to whistle Mozart's whatever with a mouthful of crackers, the performance takes place at the Ned H Rirger theatre.

So, we have three ties between Mrs. Baudelaire and Beatrice, and all of them have a red herring somewhere close to them.

Another problem we come across, is one of timing. Attend to this information, sent into me by an Angry Dwarf:

"Well, the Baudelaire parents died in the morning, correct? It's mentioned several times throughout the series; "The Baudelaires thought about that terrible morning..." and so on. So that's that: Mr. and Mrs. Baudelaire were killed in the morning.

"Okay--I was re-reading THH, and took notice of part of it on page 196: "You might read a book on how to have a successful marriage, when the only woman you will ever love has married someone else and then perished one terrible afternoon."

"So the Baudelaire parents died in the morning, and Beatrice died in the afternoon. "

Add to that the answer that is in the Lemony Snicket Q+A, (Some truth, but not total truth) and we are led to believe that Beatrice may in fact NOT be the Baudelaire's mother.

After researching the matter, I have arrived at the conclusion that if she is not the Bauds mom, Beatrice is probably someone we haven't met, if she isn't Mrs. Quagmire. She could very well be Mrs. Quagmire, because all the information fits, and Mrs. Quagmire and Mrs. Baudelaire being sisters fits into the theory as well.

Another possible answer, is that Beatrice is Mr Baudelaire's sister, which I personally think to be more likely. After all, wouldn't it be great if the Red Herring in the hospital list, was actualla double red herring?

Beatrice is not the Baud's mom, thus the Beatrice Baudelaire is a red herring, but then that's a red herring as well, since Beatrice, as Mr Baud's sister, would still be named Beatrice Baudelaire.

The only problem I have with this, is that Lemony says Beatrice married someone else, so would her last name NOT be Baudelaire anymore? Possibly. What if she married Mr Baudelaire's brother? That would make her a BAudelaire, but not the Baud's father, make the Beatrie Baudelaire thing true, and also make sense that the Bauds know who she is- their aunt.

[Ally.]

i like the beatrice-aunt theory. i don't think she's the baudelaires' mother or the quagmires' mother, and i really hope that the baudelaires and quagmires aren't related...for violet's sake.

[LyndzDa6AWitch]

CountOlaf said:

Ha, that would be the case mel, if their wasnt a flaw!

In TEE, when Jerome is talking about Mrs. Baudelaire being on mt fraught, and swooping down out of the sky... You'll note that he never really says that Mrs. Baudelaire was carried away by the whatever it was. Also, at the end of the book, there is a HUGE statue of a Red Herring.

In THH, when Carrie E. Abelabudite is mentioned, there is also a Ned H Rirger in the list, which, as we know, anagrams out to Red Herring.

Also, in LSUA, when it mentions the lead actress, Beatrice, needing to whistle Mozart's whatever with a mouthful of crackers, the performance takes place at the Ned H Rirger theatre.

So, we have three ties between Mrs. Baudelaire and Beatrice, and all of them have a red herring somewhere close to them.

Another problem we come across, is one of timing. Attend to this information, sent into me by an Angry Dwarf:

"Well, the Baudelaire parents died in the morning, correct? It's mentioned several times throughout the series; "The Baudelaires thought about that terrible morning..." and so on. So that's that: Mr. and Mrs. Baudelaire were killed in the morning.

"Okay--I was re-reading THH, and took notice of part of it on page 196: "You might read a book on how to have a successful marriage, when the only woman you will ever love has married someone else and then perished one terrible afternoon."

"So the Baudelaire parents died in the morning, and Beatrice died in the afternoon. "

Add to that the answer that is in the Lemony Snicket Q+A, (Some truth, but not total truth) and we are led to believe that Beatrice may in fact NOT be the Baudelaire's mother.

After researching the matter, I have arrived at the conclusion that if she is not the Bauds mom, Beatrice is probably someone we haven't met, if she isn't Mrs. Quagmire. She could very well be Mrs. Quagmire, because all the information fits, and Mrs. Quagmire and Mrs. Baudelaire being sisters fits into the theory as well.

Another possible answer, is that Beatrice is Mr Baudelaire's sister, which I personally think to be more likely. After all, wouldn't it be great if the Red Herring in the hospital list, was actualla double red herring?

Beatrice is not the Baud's mom, thus the Beatrice Baudelaire is a red herring, but then that's a red herring as well, since Beatrice, as Mr Baud's sister, would still be named Beatrice Baudelaire.

The only problem I have with this, is that Lemony says Beatrice married someone else, so would her last name NOT be Baudelaire anymore? Possibly. What if she married Mr Baudelaire's brother? That would make her a BAudelaire, but not the Baud's father, make the Beatrie Baudelaire thing true, and also make sense that the Bauds know who she is- their aunt.

You copied that directly from Mike Cuellar.

[SnicketFires]

my first thought that beatrice was the mother, so that is my everlasting theory. i KNOW thats what dh wants us to think and that the red herring theory is close to any mention of any beatrice/mother evidence but i dont care

also if beatrice was the mother, and she anagrams to Carrie-(whatever), i have to remind you that the hospital burned down in the AFTERNOON. which would make
page 196: "You might read a book on how to have a successful marriage, when the only woman you will ever love has married someone else and then perished one terrible afternoon."

true to the bauds mom theory

[MsMourning]

Oh no not this again. Now I understand why the people who have been on here the longest get mad when this topic comes up.

[ineedyourhelp]

i do not think she is the Bauds mom (ive said this before but i still want to get my point out ;D)

[kjlsnicket29]

Hey, Ineedyourhelp, you told me that you thought that Beatrice WAS the Bauds mom..anyways. You know my opinion on the fact. I think she's the Baud's mom.

[Tay Sachs]

How long ago did I write this topic? And I didn't want it to become another Beatrice/Mom thread, damnit!
Sigh. You people have tainted my thread. No, just kidding. But I wish it would've stayed dead and buried at any rate. I still like to think Beatrice married Olaf. It's a horrible thought, delicious for fanfiction making.

[Packerfan]

Most of us agree that Beatrice is the Baudelaire's mom.
Mel has proof.