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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Feb 13, 2004 20:52:02 GMT -5
Her full name is Esme Gigi Genevieve Squalor. I don't think she's related to the Quagmires because they didn't know who she was(our estate was under the care of the 6th most important financial advisor).
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Post by euromegamouth on Feb 13, 2004 23:08:11 GMT -5
Yeah,she probably isn't related to them,but I'm definitely on to something...
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Post by SlightlyMad on Feb 14, 2004 4:28:53 GMT -5
Yes, I wondered that too. Luciana doesn't seem to have any connection to the book. The powder faced women would've recognized her. or maybe lucianas an anagram of her name |
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Post by Mental on Feb 14, 2004 4:38:19 GMT -5
could be but is there any proof
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Post by SnicketFires on Feb 14, 2004 12:32:41 GMT -5
Luciana isn't an anagram for Esmé. I tried. There isn't a C. Do you think that the Quagmire parents are in the Jewelry business because they have large sapphires?
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Post by Caterina on Feb 14, 2004 12:34:16 GMT -5
If anything I think The Quagmires parents are in the jewekry buisness, the Bauds specifically asked them were they got their fortune, and they said saphirres.
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Feb 14, 2004 21:07:29 GMT -5
I think the Quagmires were in jewelry, and that the bauds were rich cause Mr. Baudelaire sounds like a business man(making goood friends with an important bank manager, Poe) and in book 9 Violet mentions that her mother was an actor and that pays a lot.
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Post by Caterina on Feb 15, 2004 1:25:44 GMT -5
I think that their mom was only an actor to help pass along VFD codes, not for the money.
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Post by StellaFantasia on Feb 15, 2004 11:48:36 GMT -5
Luciana is probably a reference to a character in a book or movie, or an actress or writer or something that came to a particularly unfortunate end. You know, like the names Duncan and Isadora refer to Isadora Duncan, the dancer.
I have no idea what it refers to, but most of the names in the books have some meaning in reference to film or literature or art, so I don't see why Luciana wouldn't as well.
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Post by StellaFantasia on Feb 15, 2004 12:04:16 GMT -5
Sorry for posting twice in a row, but in reference to why Esme was disguised as Luciana, the Incomplete Guide to Lemony Snicket Allusions (http://www.quidditch.com/lemony%20snicket.htm) says:
"Luciana: Lucina in Orlando Innamorato and Orlando Furioso is a noble woman under the spell of a monster. "
(Orlando Innamorato and Orlando Furioso are poetic works by Lodovico Ariosto from the 1500s. Apparently they've inspired many operas.)
Also, there is a character called Luciana in Joseph Heller's novel Catch-22, to which it could also be a reference.
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Post by Caterina on Feb 15, 2004 12:38:39 GMT -5
Actaully there was some famous person, what she did escapes me, but her name was Isadora Duncan, I heard about her in How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days, there was this diamond necklace made for her, although thats not relevant, so I think the names came from there.
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Feb 15, 2004 20:28:28 GMT -5
I never said Mrs. Baudelaire was an actress only for the money, maybe she loved acting. I think we already said Isadora Duncan was a dancer. My friend got this whole list of how names were linked to other literature for instance, Georgina Orwell-George Orwell, author of Animal Farm, 1984, etc..
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Post by StellaFantasia on Feb 15, 2004 21:12:43 GMT -5
Um, Isadora Duncan was a ballet dancer. She wore long scarves. One day one of her scarves got wrapped around a wheel of her sports car as she was driving. Now Isadora Duncan is no more. If you ever have questions about "Why is that name in the book?", etc, then www.quidditch.com/lemony%20snicket.htm is the place to go. It explains most of the references. |
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Feb 15, 2004 21:14:25 GMT -5
I'll have to check that site out... Anything else interesting on that site?
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