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jayK Corrupt Concierge Xenial Xylophone -Aiselne Drossel- Posts: 4,624	BREAKTHROUGH! MASSIVE BREAKTHROUGH! Jan 2, 2004 4:14:32 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by jayK on Jan 2, 2004 4:14:32 GMT -5 Fire just because your older than me doesn't mean I'll let you chinger me! You are so silly getting on my bad side!

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BREAKTHROUGH! MASSIVE BREAKTHROUGH! Jan 2, 2004 12:19:29 GMT -5

Post by E on Jan 2, 2004 12:19:29 GMT -5

zephyra said:

This Ramona thing is kind of a stretch, though. I know he referred to the book in LSUA but it seems kinda strange for him to use characters from another book that he didn't write! Anything's possible, but this is a little on the far side. Granted, most things in this series are. Sorry, I just have a hard time swallowing this.

I agree. I mean, if Beatrice is Ramona Quimby's aunt/sister, it would be waaay out there. Beatrice in "Ramona Quimby Age 8" is, well, the last person I'd think to be a VFD-er. But I like to look at it this way:
Many claim this Beatrice is simmilar to the Bearice in La Beatrice, a poem by Dante. Does it mean that it is the same person? No... there are just several simmilarities. I like to think of it the same way with Ramona Quimby. Not the same Beatrice, just another literary allusion (but perhaps there are some simmilarities?)

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BREAKTHROUGH! MASSIVE BREAKTHROUGH! Jan 2, 2004 14:34:13 GMT -5

Post by SnicketFires on Jan 2, 2004 14:34:13 GMT -5

"La Beatrice" is actually a poem by Charles Baudelaire, but Dante's "Inferno" (which i am currently reading) is a poem which has a character named Beatrice. Most people think Daniel Handler is alluding to Dante's Beatrice in his books.

E Formidable Foreman Many people have the same initials, which can lead to much injustice. Posts: 167	BREAKTHROUGH! MASSIVE BREAKTHROUGH! Jan 3, 2004 15:16:09 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by E on Jan 3, 2004 15:16:09 GMT -5 whoops. So many literary allusions I get mixed up. Thanks.
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SnicketFires Definitely Doomed Counterfeit Concertina Posts: 7,127 Likes: 7	BREAKTHROUGH! MASSIVE BREAKTHROUGH! Jan 3, 2004 18:00:33 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by SnicketFires on Jan 3, 2004 18:00:33 GMT -5 Your Welcome.

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Post by Tay Sachs on Jan 3, 2004 21:44:33 GMT -5

Here be the breakdown. Dante's Beatrice was the first. Baudelaire's poem was about the Beatrice in Dante's Inferno. Any Beatrice after that is usually an allusion to Dante's Beatrice, the woman he loved in real life, who sadly had little interest in him.
She not only married another man but shortly after died a tragic death at a young age (childbirth or TB, I can't remember) and he wrote her into the Inferno as a tribute.

krusty Bewildered Beginner Posts: 7	BREAKTHROUGH! MASSIVE BREAKTHROUGH! Jan 4, 2004 12:53:03 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by krusty on Jan 4, 2004 12:53:03 GMT -5 I think that mabey he name that beatrice, beatrice because it was in the Ramona books and because her chartacter was like the the beatrice in Dante's poem.

MikeT Splenetic Surgeon From That Sad Age, One Sad Page.. Posts: 748	BREAKTHROUGH! MASSIVE BREAKTHROUGH! Jan 4, 2004 13:58:43 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by MikeT on Jan 4, 2004 13:58:43 GMT -5 w-w-whoa. what the heck are the Ramona books?

SnicketFires Definitely Doomed Counterfeit Concertina Posts: 7,127 Likes: 7	BREAKTHROUGH! MASSIVE BREAKTHROUGH! Jan 4, 2004 18:46:08 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by SnicketFires on Jan 4, 2004 18:46:08 GMT -5 The Ramona Quimby books by Beverly Cleary, you know like Ramona Quimby, age eight; Ramona and Beezus... Theres a whole series, and Age 8 has the strangely dressed man in it.

MsMourning Pessimistic Professor 0_o Posts: 238	BREAKTHROUGH! MASSIVE BREAKTHROUGH! Jun 13, 2004 18:21:55 GMT -5 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by MsMourning on Jun 13, 2004 18:21:55 GMT -5 I'm going to read that.