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Post by Caterina on Feb 15, 2004 1:20:50 GMT -5
In TVV, it said that Jaques Snicket looked remarkably like count Olaf, and I would asume that Jaques and Lemony are related, then maybe are Jaques and Olaf related, making Lemony and Olaf related as well. I know that lemony has only a brother and a sister, but they could be cousins, or even less related, but that almost defeats the subject. Anyways, what do you think???
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Post by Caterina on Feb 15, 2004 15:00:02 GMT -5
Wow, I never though t of that, great clue, yeah, but i think I said before, I am pretty sure Olaf cant be Lomonys brother, because I have a theory that Jaques is, and all that is left is a sister, so if they are related, I have no clue how. Yeah, I bet Lemony looks like Olaf to.
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Post by SnicketFires on Feb 15, 2004 18:54:46 GMT -5
Well, ya, Jacques is Lemony's brother. On the family tree/VFD recruitment list on page 197 of the UA, J and L are next to each other, and there are various letters from Jacques to Lemony in the UA using the phrase "my dear brother".
Also, in TVV, when Duncan is telling the Baudelaires about Jacques, and they say that the name sounds familiar, Duncan says "Jacques Snicket is the brother of a man who-"
Also, in the picture of the Snicket family with the Baudelaire parents from page 13 of the Snicket file, Jacques and Lemony are in the same photo. Really, I just forgot what I was saying about that, but many people have a reason to beleive that the Baudelaires mother is K, so with Jacques and Lemony in it, it is a Snicket family portrait.
Warning: This is not to turn into another thread about Mrs. Baudelaire = ?.
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Post by AgentM on Feb 15, 2004 21:36:30 GMT -5
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On the Snicket family tree mentioned above, there is someone 'O' who is L (Lemony)'s cousin. The branch for 'O' has a noose hanging from it... (!) Considering that everywhere 'O' pops up, it stands for Olaf... Although so many of these things are highly misleading, I'd say that Olaf and Lemony are cousins.
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Feb 15, 2004 21:49:44 GMT -5
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On the Snicket family tree mentioned above, there is someone 'O' who is L (Lemony)'s cousin. The branch for 'O' has a noose hanging from it... (!) Considering that everywhere 'O' pops up, it stands for Olaf... Although so many of these things are highly misleading, I'd say that Olaf and Lemony are cousins.
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Post by Caterina on Feb 15, 2004 23:19:49 GMT -5
I know that we dont want another thread about Beatrice put please before we go on, please clarify why everyone thinks shes K?
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Post by AgentM on Feb 16, 2004 14:33:36 GMT -5
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As far as my research shows, K cannot be Beatrice. We know that Lemony wanted to marry Beatrice. K is Lemony's sister (from the family tree, and it's alluded to in the letters). Plus, Beatrice does not start with a K. So the two of them are different people. Then, on page 97 of LSUA:
"You must not telephone K. You must not communicate with B at all, not even by telegram or carrier pigeon. I will try to communicate with B myself so that she does not believe all of the terrible things printed in The Daily Punctilio, but you must not risk her life along with your own."
K is, obviously, K. B, considering that the letter is to Lemony, is most likely Beatrice. Plus, Lemony tries on several other occaisions to let Beatrice know that the allegations against him are false, so it makes sense for Jacques to help him.
Sorry about getting off the real topic, but I wanted to clear that up.
Speaking of Beatrice, Lemony tries to warn her that Olaf is something (I don't recall which book, I just know that I don't have the correct book available at this time). If someone could get the quote, I would appreciate it. Anyway, that would be another connection between Olaf and Lemony.
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Post by Caterina on Feb 16, 2004 14:53:54 GMT -5
Yes, I dont think that Beatrice could be K either, K is a K, Beatrice starts with a B, its not that hard. Although we are getting off onto an already discussed topic, but anyways back to lemony and Olaf, like Agent M said they are more than likely related as cousins, which would be the best possibaility, and if K is Lemonys sister then I am positive she cant be Beatrice, I am going to look at the family tree, and come back with some more results. Its funny because at first I disregarded the family tree as nothing because the letters going across are in order of the alphabet, so that threw me off.
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Feb 16, 2004 15:18:54 GMT -5
Who thinks Beatrice is K? My friend entertained the notion for about two seconds and then laughed it off. Sorry, but I don't think Lemony wants to marry his sister. There is a thread about what Lemony meant to say in the aa when he said Beatrice, Count Olaf is-, you'll just have to find it cause I temporarily forgot which one it was.
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Post by Caterina on Feb 16, 2004 16:49:39 GMT -5
Yeah, I cant believe you would think Beatrice is K, also I looked at the family tree, if we think E is Eseme then I think youd be a little mistaken, or I am a little confused, because it said that E is Jaque's Lemony's and K's mother, witch is pretty wierd, because it never eally talks about older people being in VFD, unless Lemony is a kid like many of the members.
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Feb 16, 2004 17:35:45 GMT -5
THere can be more than one E in VFD. But that confused me because Lemony's father was Jacob Snicket, yet their parent was E which doesn't make sense because his grandpa is Chas Snicket so unless their mother kept her maiden name there seems to be an error.
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Post by Caterina on Feb 16, 2004 19:08:40 GMT -5
Yeah, that is wierd, how do we know its Chas again, I belive you, I just foget. Yeah, it is weird, I doubt that Snicket has mentioned his mother, unless E is the name of his father, which her still hasn't mentioned. How confusing.
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Post by PJ on Jun 24, 2004 7:38:30 GMT -5
Lemony's dad is called Jacob
anyway, back to the topic, the branch with the noose looks more like a "Q" to me. Maybe it has someething to do with Quigley, who was presumed dead.
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Post by Emmerz ze Silly Goose on Jul 15, 2004 8:35:59 GMT -5
In TVV, it said that Jaques Snicket looked remarkably like count Olaf, and I would asume that Jaques and Lemony are related, then maybe are Jaques and Olaf related, making Lemony and Olaf related as well. I know that lemony has only a brother and a sister, but they could be cousins, or even less related, but that almost defeats the subject. Anyways, what do you think??? If Olaf and the Snickets are cousins, then tht means the Bauds are very distantly relate to the Snickets (that's if olaf is really their 3rd cousin 4 times removed or 4th cousin 3 times removed) Which would mean....Mrs. Baud and Lemony are realtated and if Mrs. Baud is Beatrice....Whoa....Family love to a whole new level... |
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Post by Monkeysclient on Jul 15, 2004 15:20:25 GMT -5
I have thought about this before and I think that Olaf is O on the snicket family tree, I think the noose is on that branch because Olaf has betrayed the family who are all linked with VFD and I think that olaf may have been called omar b4.
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