Post by Lunatic Fire Eyes on Feb 21, 2009 22:32:30 GMT -5
It wasnt that it was boring, [to me], but it just wasnt as great as the others, but still not the worst [TCC is the worst, in my opinion]. It had some great moments, just like all the others, but some things were kind of stale in this book. Sir was an amusing character, and Olaf had one of his worst disguises he's ever donned. Payment by coupons was pretty funny too, as well as the deal with gum.
Those were some of the main high points, although there isnt too many more. It was okay, but not the worst.
I don't understand the hate behind TGG, it's one of my favorites. However I do understand the bore behind TMM, as it's my least favorite. I did quite enjoy Sir, though. He was probably the most creative character design to emerge from aSoUE.
What about TCC hate, as darkrikux mentioned? I know some people found the whole "freaks" business rather offensive, although I think that's rather neutralised by their normal personalities and the un-freakishness of their physical conditions. I can't imagine putting TCC below TMM; it's one of the funniest books in the series.
Oh definitely! TCC was great, not only for its hilarity but its suspense with the Baudelaires trying to get information from the library under the false fortuneteller's table--and having them set it on fire was gut wrenching! I really don't see why people think it's offensive, though. The moral values here were definitely more intact than anywhere else in the series. Lulu/Olivia was treating the "freaks" horribly, and the Baudelaires had the correct mindset in realizing that she was horrible for it. At least this is what I remember, I've only read through the events once.
Post by Lunatic Fire Eyes on Feb 24, 2009 22:43:22 GMT -5
I thought Kevin was okay, and made me laugh one or two times, but other than that the freaks weren't really that great. to me.
I didnt think it was to bad, but another book that is in my bottom half of my favorites is THH. Like I said, it wasnt bad, but it seemed to me that the plot of the book almost didnt relate to the rest of the series at all.
Perhaps because the whole "Snicket File" arc ultimately went nowhere? Or the fact that it sort of occupies a space in the series where the Baudelaires are out on their own, but not really independent yet, as is the case post-TSS; they're on the run, but still being shuffled from space to space at the mercy of chance. TSS onwards feels perhaps as if there's more direction to their journey.
TMM is probably my least favourite book in the series, I’m not entirely sure why . . . I don’t just think it’s because it is boring, or at least a bit repetitive . . . I think it is probably the most ‘miserable’ of the novels. I suppose that in a lot of the other books the ‘sufferings’ would be bad to experience, but are so strange or far-fetched that they make amusing reading, whereas child-labour in a lumber mill in near-starvation conditions is just miserable. And they are a lot more passive in this book, which frustrated me. It all gets a bit circular, Klaus keeps on going back to the opticians despite the fact he will be hypnotized . . . I think the situation felt so hopeless that it was the most gloomy book for me.
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Post by Philosophy on Feb 25, 2009 10:48:25 GMT -5
I think that I'm the only one who thought that THH was boring. Sure the Snicket File piece was OK, but it somehow really began to bore me. Not sure about the TMM though, it's been a long time since I read it, So I have to re-read it...eventually...
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I really enjoyed THH, because we were somewhere that was totally different than any of the previous books. The Baudelaires were alone, which I found fresh and exciting. Also, the unfinished hospital and Esme's stiletto shoes were great.
The unfinished half of the hospital was actually kinda unused. In the narrative, I mean. Given that it's unuseable, perhaps that's appropriate, but if you compare it to the lumbermill, say (since this is technically a TMM topic). They scoured that lumbermill top to bottom in TMM's plot. But the Baudelaires were barely in the unfinished half of the hospital. I guess it doesn't really need to be used so long as it exists as a concept; it would be a cool idea even if the Baudelaires never went there at all.