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Post by Shaffuru! on Jan 10, 2004 1:01:21 GMT -5
That's unsettling. But I guess... good. So I'm not eating a little fetus or anything. Yay.
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Post by Charles Vane on Jan 10, 2004 1:03:30 GMT -5
The part that means a baby chicken chicken didn't die so I can get omlettes is good but otherwise, ewwwww.
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Post by Indistinguishable Blob on Jan 10, 2004 2:21:22 GMT -5
Hum...I really would like to be a vegetarian, but, as I believe Negativenine said, it's kind of hard to do so with my mother around. I actually was a veggie for about a day, perhaps, but that never worked out. I'm sure one day...
As for why: Well, first out, like Neggie said, the idea of meat just grosses me out. I mean, I like it enough, but while I'm eating it I usually start thinking "Eww..." Reading The Basic Eight didn't help matters...
And then there's also this thing I read about a year ago...from a "philosophy book for teens!!" (read-cliffs notes on various philosophical questions) that actually made a good point on this...too lazy to type it up or attempt to remember it. I remember something about how it was horrible how the animals were kept in such deplorable conditions and then brutally killed. And lots of other stuff. On a whole, it wasn't very substantial, but I had trouble eating meat for a while afterwords....
...yeah.
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Post by Kobolos on Jan 10, 2004 7:01:51 GMT -5
what's the line?
"If God hadn't wanted us to eat animals, they wouldn't be made of meat"
As you may know, my adventures in going veggie is ongoing. The wife pointed out that I can't be vegan. I wear leather coats. It's immoral turns out...
If I can't wear leather, don't make cows out of it.
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Post by Tay Sachs on Jan 10, 2004 14:44:54 GMT -5
I don't eat very much beef at all, and I don't eat pork ever, but I eat lots of chickens. If anyone knew how many chickens have perished at my hands...I love chicken. All vegetables make me throw up. But fearing for my health I did go out and buy some of those veggie bears, those little gummy bears with all the freeze dried veggie nutrient things in them...pretty good actually, and make me feel better about the fact a living veggie hasn't passed my lips for about a year. I mostly live on chicken, veggie bears and juice.
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Post by MambaduMal on Jan 10, 2004 17:02:13 GMT -5
*sigh* I do feel guilty eating meat sometimes... I do like veggies though (mostly uncooked) but if I was vegitarian I don't think I'd be satisfied at all... I LOVE meat and variety... and there are so many ways to cook and eat different meats that they end up tasting completely different. Variety is good... even with all the different veggie platters, I doubt I could stand it... Peaches- I've never heard of those veggie bears... it sounds like a good idea... must be hard not to be able to eat veggies and stuff though...
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Post by Amphagorey on Jan 10, 2004 17:32:12 GMT -5
I eat Chicken and Turkey and Fish, but this spring I plan to get off the poultry. I won't shop anywhere that has fur products or animal skin items. Unfortunatly when I need running shoes, I can't really find a place that sells veggie running shoes. I'm kinda stuck with dead cows on my feet. Oh, and I won't play basket ball with a leather ball. Rubber, thank you!
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Post by negativenine on Jan 10, 2004 19:20:18 GMT -5
Anti-Cent, I have the same problem trying to find shoes that aren't made in sweatshops. THE SHOE INDUSTRY IS TERRIBLE AND CORRUPT! Aurora, I stopped eating red meat for a month after reading the Basic Eight... and now I'm reading The Edible Woman. I fear that isn't helping much, either. I agree... sort of... I got in a big debate with my friend (who is vegetarian) about this. She said we have to save animals because they're at least semi-intelligent and that killing animals is wrong. I said that since animals eat animals, and as long as one is using the dead animal to survive (ie: eat it) it's okay. She said that we know better and we're more intelligent, though. We have enough technology and ressources to stay alive without killing animals. So she'd contradicted herself by saying that animals needed to be saved because they were intelligent, then that they're not intelligent to know better. But then she asked me if I thought we should kill anyone who's mentally retarded. I said something along the lines of "Oh my god! That's horrible!" She had me there...
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Post by MambaduMal on Jan 10, 2004 20:44:48 GMT -5
But then she asked me if I thought we should kill anyone who's mentally retarded. I said something along the lines of "Oh my god! That's horrible!" She had me there... Well, that would be different, because the reason for killing the retarded person in that case would be to rid the world of them, and not for survival... if we needed the dead person for food (I am sooo sorry for even mentioning that) it would be a different story.
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Post by Charles Vane on Jan 10, 2004 20:58:50 GMT -5
If you beleive in God then the reason you were created in the first place was to protect and take care of the animals. It's a bit contradictary to kill them. And someone said this earlier but the way animals are treated? It's terrible, they're raised just to be killed! We can live without meat and i think we should.
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Post by pennyroyal on Jan 10, 2004 23:54:52 GMT -5
If you beleive in God then the reason you were created in the first place was to protect and take care of the animals. Where the hell did you get that idea from?! In The Bible, God says to Peter in a vision, "Arise, Peter, kill and eat."
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Post by Charles Vane on Jan 10, 2004 23:58:13 GMT -5
Maybe he was talking about canabalism.. Um no that's in Genesis. But yeah I know it also says to eat meat in the bible. These people I know got all mageey when my friend wanted to go vegeterian, they said she was against the bible. she stayed a vegetrian for about 4 months, that was pretty good.
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Post by pennyroyal on Jan 11, 2004 0:33:28 GMT -5
Maybe he was talking about canabalism.. Umm, WTF?! Peter saw visions of many animals, including pigs, which he wasn't supposed to eat because he was jewish. "Arise, Peter, kill and eat." Peter said he couldn't eat pigs. "Arise, Peter, kill and eat, for everything I have made I have also made clean." That was stupid of your friends to say that girl was against the Bible... Remember, Let he who is without sin cast the first stone
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Post by pennyroyal on Jan 11, 2004 1:36:15 GMT -5
Yeah, I've heard that before- before the flood there were no carnivores...
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Post by Kobolos on Jan 11, 2004 8:38:31 GMT -5
Pigs killed Mozart. Not F. Murray Abraham.
Thank you.
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