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Post by Tay Sachs on Oct 20, 2003 22:05:00 GMT -5
Adverbns is about several people in several different relationships, most of whom are miserable.
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Post by Quigley on Oct 20, 2003 22:50:00 GMT -5
*eyes snap open* A NEW DH BOOK!? Can't wait.. TB8 is classic...I do agree though with whoever said it *too lazy to look* that it is good that Daniel Handler isn't popular (it'd kill me if he was popular as JK...then I wouldn't feel smart saying "I'm reading The Basic Eight" or "I'm reading Watch Your Mouth." "Oh, what's Watch Your Mouth about?" "Incest." That sounds great, dun't it?
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Post by Celinra on Oct 22, 2003 10:34:06 GMT -5
I finally finished reading TB8. I got confused at the end though, (warning, slight spoiler ahead), the whole thing with Natasha and everything. Did she sneak away, or did she even exist at all? I'm confused. Or maybe I'm just looking too much into it.
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Post by Indistinguishable Blob on Oct 22, 2003 18:24:59 GMT -5
Oh, that reminds me of a book where the girl had this friend, and it turns out she made it all up in her head.
Can't wan't wait until Adverbs comes out!
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Post by Quigley on Oct 25, 2003 1:09:37 GMT -5
I finally finished reading TB8. I got confused at the end though, (warning, slight spoiler ahead), the whole thing with Natasha and everything. Did she sneak away, or did she even exist at all? I'm confused. Or maybe I'm just looking too much into it. ***Spoiler ahead*** Natasha was never there...the other girl, what's her name? The one that Flan thought was being excluded, she was part of the basic eight, making up for Natasha. So, it was always 8 of them.
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Post by Indistinguishable Blob on Oct 25, 2003 10:52:47 GMT -5
She was never there?.....
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Post by Dark on Oct 26, 2003 21:49:12 GMT -5
I don't remember where I read that there will be a movie based on TB8.
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Post by Celinra on Oct 29, 2003 11:45:29 GMT -5
***Spoiler ahead*** Natasha was never there...the other girl, what's her name? The one that Flan thought was being excluded, she was part of the basic eight, making up for Natasha. So, it was always 8 of them. *more spoilers* <P>Okay, I thought it might be something like that, but wasn't sure, just cuz Natasha was so different from what's-her-face, and I didn't feel like reading back to see if those two ever interacted at all, and I think they made up the name 'the basic eight' for themselves before she joined in. My other theory was that Flan had split personalities, and Natasha was the one who came out to do things Flan couldn't. That would also explain why she couldn't remember a lot of stuff. <P>Which brings up my other question, of who was it who killed Adam? Was it Flan or Natasha, or it's Natasha who's a part of Flan (going to my multiple personality theory), or was it what's-her-face, or... I dunno. It just got me very confused, when Natasha said it was her who killed him, then didn't exist... bleh. <P>And speaking of this, we're coming up to the date when the murder took place... it's only 2 days away.
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Post by Dark on Oct 30, 2003 11:49:15 GMT -5
This is my version of who killed Adam:
Flan, but she was on drugs (absinthe), so she doesn't remember. Then Natasha told her that she (Natasha) did it, so Flan doesn't feel bad.
What do you think?
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Post by Quigley on Oct 30, 2003 22:51:01 GMT -5
I think Flan is skitzophrentik (spelling) like in a Beautiful Mind.... *poilers* I do agree w/ your split personality theory, that would make sense...
I once heard about a girl who, when she got mad, would just slip into a different personality, and eventually she had tons of them. Maybe when Flan is upset, or lonely, she slips into Natasha...
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Post by Celinra on Oct 31, 2003 11:31:04 GMT -5
I came up with the multiple personality theory because I've been doing research on it for a story I'm writing (I didn't want to offend anyone with it because of horrible inaccuracies). There's usually a lot of personalities, but only one main one that shows a lot (which would be Flan). Also, at least one personality is made as a protector (which would be Natasha, who does things to people after they hurt Flan). And now I'm confused, as I just remembered that other people interact with Natasha while Flan is doing something else, so that's not it. But, who gave the absinthe to the teacher, then, if Flan was doing something else and Natasha didn't exist? ARG! *is thinking too hard*
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Post by Dark on Nov 1, 2003 13:45:14 GMT -5
A story about multiple personalities, I had an idea about something like that.
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Post by StellaFantasia on Nov 11, 2003 19:02:41 GMT -5
The Basic Eight is one of my favorite books ever, and I won't stop raving about it, but it's not aimed at the same audience that ASOUE is. It's an adult novel. And if you read it just because you like ASOUE, you're unlikely to find they have much in common. Absinthe, btw, is an alcoholic drink traditionally made with wormwood, which gives it hallucinogenic qualities. It's illegal in the US due to it's very high alcohol content (1 shot is the equivalent of 2-3 shots of vodka). Although you can get the sort without wormwood in places like England and France nowadays, you have to go to the depths of eastern Europe to find the good old hallucinogenic stuff that Toulouse-Lautrec and co. or your buddy in Les Miserables would have been drinking in the olden days. Absinthe is light green in color and tastes of some horrible, vaguely liquoricey cough syrup. It's foul, foul stuff and gets you almost impossibly drunk. Why am I talking about this? I once heard Daniel Handler read a short story of his, before the Basic Eight was even published and long before ASOUE. It was quite good, and I'm hoping that Adverbs will be the book of short stories he said he was writing back then. I'm looking forward to it, anyway.
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Post by Mary on Nov 11, 2003 22:48:08 GMT -5
I'm new here, but as soon as I figure out how to post a picture, I will show you all the gift I am sending Daniel Handler. It is an absinthe spoon with an eye on it. I wrote a funny letter to go with it too.
Drinking absithe is referred to as "chasing fairies" and it is green so I refer to it in my letter as "Verdent Fairy Drink". I think he will be amused.
Also, I don't think Flan/Natasha was drinking Absinthe the night of the murder. I think she was just trashed in general.
Mary, Happy to be here
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Post by Indistinguishable Blob on Dec 7, 2003 21:41:08 GMT -5
Ooohness. I recently read TB8 and WYM (I loved them both to death-Whee!). I too was sort of confused with the Natasha thing, but I just found this DH quote on TB8: "The traditional first novel should be a coming of age story. But that didn't quite interest me, so before I knew it, as I was thinking about adolescence and the point at which one comes to the end of certain types of innocence, murder sprang to mind, and imaginary personalities, and all sorts of things that seemed more interesting than a typical coming of age novel."
So...Natasha, anyone? I got it from www.beatrice.com/interviews/handler/Um...yeah. Oh, and also, I took the quiz and got Natasha as a result...whee. I have panache. Or however it's spelled.
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