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Post by Amy Lee ALOE Aunt Jo on Apr 19, 2006 17:41:22 GMT -5
I don't know if this goes here or if this is in any other threads but ... Has anyone every stopped to think why Handler calls it "Hotel Denouement"? At first I didn't realize what denouement meant, then someone told me that it is a very anti-climactic ending to a story. In another thread under "Cheerless Characters" (I can't remember which) someone said that what we were discussing (can't remember that either) was very anti-climactic, so Handler wouldn't put it in the 13th book. But if he's decided to put the Bauds in the Anti-Climactic Inn then whatever we were talking about might happen. Riiiiiiiight? Any opinions (positive or negative) are appreciated. Thanks!!
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Post by Antenora on Apr 19, 2006 19:45:26 GMT -5
I'm not really sure what you're trying to ask , but Handler made it clear at one point that the denouement of a story isn't the same as its end. It simply refers to, literally, the untying of knots, the resolution of certain plot threads--such as bringing back a lot of old characters and (apparently) killing them all, while
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Post by Ernest D on Apr 19, 2006 19:58:26 GMT -5
A denouement doesn't necessarily have to be anticlimatic.
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Post by SnicketFires on Apr 19, 2006 20:35:07 GMT -5
I'm not sure what this thread's purpose is. Could you clarify, please? Here are some things that may or may not go with what you are trying to say. A little discussion of the definition of "denouement" here. I also liked the pun with the hotel names... Obviously, the meaning behind Hotel Denouement has been examined several times (including once in this book), but there was also the opposite... Hotel Preludio, or prelude, which is the introduction to something. . Source. Well, Lemony did, in TPP, describe the denouement of a story as often being "the penultimate peril" (page 177), and later on, page 251, he indirectly states that the events at Hotel Denouement were the Baudelaires' penultimate peril. Back on page 177 again, Snicket said that the Baudelaires' denouement was fast approaching, but the end of their story was still waiting for them - implying that the former was in that book, and the latter in the next. He also defined it as the unravelling of the knots of a story - a vague and ambiguous phrase, but Olaf believes the denouement of his story had come in TPP (page 306), and the explanation of the Hotel Denouement subplot, the revelation of the connection to V.F.D. of a number of characters, and their subsequent destructions, gets rid of a significant number of knots and tangles in the plot, to my mind. Edit: Oh, and obviously there's the link between a hotel's name and the stage of the story it's at - the Baudelaires stayed at Hotel Preludio prior to the series of unfortunate events, so it logically follows that their stay at Hotel Denouement was at the time of the denouement of their story. You may, of course, argue irony, or that it was the tnemeuoneD letoH or some such, but I doubt I shall be convinced. Source.
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Post by Nicky on Apr 29, 2006 19:54:48 GMT -5
I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
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