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Post by Ambidextrous Kevin on Apr 4, 2004 18:47:22 GMT -5
ya, im all for violence in entertainment (not that there isnt other forms of entertainment too), but theres no way that they can stop people from making/playing violent games. anyone could protest them, but its like downloading music: they cant catch nearly enough people to make an impact. ;D
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Post by Dark_Avenger on Apr 4, 2004 22:50:57 GMT -5
The idiots that accuse video games of crimes are dipsalsas spewing bull. If anyone's to blame, it's the parents that actually let their kids at those games and don't even take the responsibility to tell them right and wrong and what's real and pretend. Those guys that killed someone driving by on the street said they were reinacting a scene from GTA. GTA provided the idea, yes, but the parents are the dumbasses that provided the ignorance. Nonetheless, morons took it as the golden opportunity to attack violence in games. Rockstar has a helluva lot of guts to go and make a game like Manhunt. From the stuff in EGM, it looks pretty damn brutal. If I hear anyone in person tell me, though, that it's to blame for crimes teens and kids commit now, I'd be tempted to kick them in the private vicinity. Another thing I don't get is why you need an ID to get an M video game, but can purchase an R movie without a sweat. I'd say that R movies can be a lot more violent and inappropriate than a video game can. (Heck, some games don't even deserve their ratings. Perfect Dark? Best shooter of all time, but my brother and I went through a lot of persuading to get it because it had an M on the box. With the exception of blood being stained on walls, it wasn't anything worse than somelike like Goldeneye, another great game.)
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Post by Colton on Apr 5, 2004 3:50:08 GMT -5
Well, the way I see this, it's the parent's job to ban music/tv shows/games. Several programs such as Dish Network provide banning of certain channels/specials. And since 90% of children who buy video games either use allowance, parent's money etc., or at least buy the game while their parents are there, them sneaking games in isn't too much of an issue(I hope all the 8 year olds start an organized game-smuggling network!). And as for music, one can ground a child from the radio if they listen to the wrong stations. If the parents don't care enough to do this task, then the child will be potato ed up anyway. And besides. I play Driver(Playstation) alot. Violence and running from cops. Fun. Very relaxing, when you're angry. Nothing to ban. Organized crime, wOOp! In my personal opinion, rap should be banned just for the hell of it, but I don't think I could get that to the president without the NAACP and several other organizations, which choose to remain nameless deciding to picket my front yard... No rudeness/racial slurs intended. NAACP just seems like the most likely organization to picket a lonely country road, for the good of rap music... ;D And if we're talking about banning from EVERYONE, then well just give up. There will soom be National Organizations for the Advancement of Organized Violence (NOAOV) And Violent Freedom Defenders! :DXD HAAA! I am laughing myself salsaless over here. i'm sorry, everyone*tries to remain serious* Ha! hahahaha,... HAA! XD
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Post by xangelkimzx on Apr 5, 2004 8:44:22 GMT -5
What exactly is your pic? The one after your message
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Post by Pucca on Apr 5, 2004 11:10:37 GMT -5
What has that got to do with "Should we ban violent films/video games?" Hehe, typical Kimia *sighs*
And yes, this post has nothing to do with "Should we ban violent films/video games?" I am just as bad, and i admit it.
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Post by embah on Apr 6, 2004 2:21:31 GMT -5
If they started banning violent games, movies or music, then there would be a huge debate against it, that would probably go on for ages. Besides, personally, I play Getaway on PS2 which has alot of fast cars, cops, blood and killing in it (my brother introduced it to me) and I don't have any sudden urges to do something bad, and I'm pretty sure I'll never run someone down or kill them. So what's the big deal?
It's the parents responsibilty to ban the games or whatever if they feel that it will effect their children, not the governments. If they banned violent music, games or movies, then that will only give more over protective or contreversial parents the chance to use that example in court as an excuse to their children's crimes, and may even protest to ban other things.
If they're gonna ban our stuff, why don't they ban smoking? Or drugs?
Another arguement is; why don't they ban medication? Some medicines can send someone hypo and make them do violent things. But they don't ban them, do they. No, because some people need them, just like some people are alright to play and watch and listen to violent things.
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Post by xangelkimzx on Apr 6, 2004 13:52:12 GMT -5
Yeah, I agree too
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Post by dangerous on Apr 8, 2004 14:54:38 GMT -5
if your a shallow person that believes every thing don't go. If you've got iniative who's stopping you apart from the person at the cinema desk cause your underage.
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Post by Luigi on Apr 8, 2004 15:20:38 GMT -5
I hate violent video games, like drive by shootings ones and stuff. But I would be a hypocrite if I try to get the gov't to censor them. I will call the games stupid, I will debate about how horrid they are but I will never, ever try to get a gov't ban on them--it is a violation on free speech. If, one day, there is a ban placed on them, I may or may not be up there fighting as I would be for other censorship issues, but I would not be for the ban. The games glorify violence, however. They make killing people fun. I don't think that is right. Video game companies selling their souls to sell games--movies do it, too, as does TV, etc. I think they're horrible, tasteless and I will stand against them myself, but I would not get the government involved.
"I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend, to the death, your right to say it." --Voltaire
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Post by xangelkimzx on Apr 8, 2004 15:44:16 GMT -5
That's kewl
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Post by jack2004 on Apr 8, 2004 15:46:21 GMT -5
no we shouldnt ban violent games,because it is the parents choice to expose children to this crap
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Post by Madamluna on Apr 8, 2004 15:46:32 GMT -5
Thanks for providing opposition. The games glorify violence, however. They make killing people fun. I don't think that is right. Video game companies selling their souls to sell games. Here you imply that everyone employed by these companies are soulless, man-shaped shells. According to your logic, that means that pretty much every goddamn movie company out their sold their souls like TEN TIMES OVER, since those glorify violence more than video games EVER could except for maybe Manhunt, but that's a game of survival anyway. You are missing something very important here-- parents buy the games for their kids. They have things called "ratings" which allow games not to be sold to kids under the required age. Therefore, braindead parents buy the games for their kids and then they end up wondering why there's so much violent crap in it. (answer: BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T READ THE ESRB LABEL YOU GODDAMN IDIOTS). Thank you. That's very kind of you.
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Post by xangelkimzx on Apr 8, 2004 15:49:41 GMT -5
Whats going on?
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Post by Luigi on Apr 8, 2004 15:52:16 GMT -5
OK, parents are partially at fault--but what about the parents who forbid the games, but their kids get it, anyway? Parents can only do so much. I still think the games have no taste, and I would be horrified to see a child or even an adult palying it....
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Post by jack2004 on Apr 8, 2004 15:54:11 GMT -5
how could a child get the game?
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