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Post by tex mexx on Dec 29, 2003 18:02:00 GMT -5
maybe that guy's in the VFD for headmasters or something. So do u people think that MJ will be guilty or innocent in his upcoming trial?
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Post by MambaduMal on Dec 30, 2003 14:34:46 GMT -5
Do we have to get back to the real topic? I was kind of enjoying the discussion of brats...
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Post by Charles Vane on Dec 30, 2003 14:38:15 GMT -5
Ok then, well what's your opinion on the whole brat dicussion Mamba?
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Post by MambaduMal on Jan 3, 2004 18:05:14 GMT -5
Swans is NOT always right. She is right sometimes though. And her rants are really fun to read.
I guess we don't have to continue with this topic, I was reading it when I had a really bad fever... and stuff...
So, my opinion on brats is this. If someone wants to be rude to an authority figure, it's usually just bratty to do so... since authority figures are there for a reason and more often than not, they do their jobs reasonably well. If you seriously feel like you're being opressed, it should be all right to speak your mind... if done in a civil manner, with no whining or insults or whatever.
People can be brats to others too... this happens commonly in junior high... when someone considers someone else to be fair game for insults because they're lower on the social ladder.
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Post by Vince Noir on Jan 3, 2004 18:14:36 GMT -5
Brats are mean and spoilt and ruin things for other people, like ruining education for a class full of children. But if disrupt a lesson or simmalar, dosnt mean you are a brat. Some people have short attention spans or find work boreing or too easy.
I thought this was a talk about mj? How did you start talking about brats??
Luv Phoebe
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Post by Vince Noir on Jan 4, 2004 14:10:48 GMT -5
Swans is always right! hehehehe
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Post by MambaduMal on Jan 4, 2004 18:54:24 GMT -5
Swans, you know not to listen to me... you are an incredibly wonderful person and you're almost always right...
You are loved, don't feel sad... and to show my appreciation I would hug you... but since I remember how you dislike hugs I shall give you a sincere friendly handshake. *e-handshake*
Smile now ;D
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Post by Sunnys4sharpteeth on Jan 5, 2004 15:16:42 GMT -5
Yes, I think children are brats. They don't respect authority, they talk back.. and perhaps I was somewhat of a brat but I at least listened to my teachers and my parents. I didn't talk back and continually challenge them (at least not in front of the entire class). If I was upset with something I took the classy and proper route, and did it behind closed doors. I really wanted to teach high school algebra but dealing with some of the students-- NO THANKS. They don't respect, they don't listen.. and it's so stupid! When you disrespect people it just carries the situation out more and it's so frustrating.. so yes, I think children (especially children who don't listen or misguided children who assume they know everything and then lecture me about their supposed rights) are annoying brats. I honestly don't dislike all children.. like Allison (chocolate souffle) she's a good girl, and I can totally tolerate my younger brother but some kids-- OH MY GOSH. Like I do a lot of volunteer work for my church and this girl was picking on someone else, so I told her she needed to go sit out-- know what she did? She clawed me! She took her dirty fingernails and clawed me-- she didn't draw blood but she left marks in my arm. I told her mother, and know what her mother said.. "oh, she's been sick lately" (as in having a cold not mentally ill sick though I think the child is mentally ill) so the mother made up an excuse for her child's bratty behavior. First of all if your child is sick with a cold your child need to home IN BED not out in public spreading her cold, and second of all having a cold doesn't make you attack someone, it makes you sneeze! Oh, and at junior camp there were six cabins in this big house and I was downstairs in the kitcken and there three kids down there after lights out. I told them to go to bed and what response do I get "our counselor said we could stay up". I knew the counselor, she's my friend.. and I knew they were lying.. so I said okay, let's go up and ask your counselor. They said no.. so I said, they needed to go to bed and if they really had to talk they could whisper in their bunks. They gave me a complete attitude and cursed me out in Spanish. Okay, whatever, why am I so evil? I was counselor.. I was doing my freaking job! It was lights out and the children's director does checks.. if she came in and found those three girls the entire cabin would have been punished. Why should we all get punished because these three girls want to rebel? I hate that.. especially when I'm such a nice person! Like when I go to camp I totally let my girls stay up late and talk as long as they stay in their bunks. I let them mess around and talk for thirty minutes and then after that out of courtesy for the other cabins next door I make them whisper. Oh, and during prayer time girls were running around from another cabin screaming.. and so I just asked the girls to please stop screaming. I didn't say they had to go to bed or stop talking but when we are sitting around praying and having fellowship at least show some respect. That's why I think some kids are brats. How old was she? I'm 10 but I'm not a brat if i am upset i argue and if i am told off i usually cry, when i was 4 a giel callled nola bit me her mother sort of said the same thing , it's really the adults who rais them determine there "brattiness" really
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Post by RENeNULLMIN on Jan 10, 2004 14:52:52 GMT -5
well some parent are the reason their kids are bratty . Some kids though are trying to hid their real feeling . Like my little cousin is a serious brat but her dad died a few years ago and shes just trying to hide her feelings ,but sometimes you can through to them . Like when I was visiting there was a tornado and she started crying saying she all she wanted was her daddy . *sits down in nice leather swivil chair and say so how do you feel about that ?
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Post by DetectiveDupin on Jan 25, 2004 4:18:11 GMT -5
I'm not the younges anymore!
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Post by SlightlyMad on Feb 4, 2004 14:52:36 GMT -5
No youre not (im actually sunnys4sharopteeth)
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Post by Rikku on Feb 4, 2004 15:17:04 GMT -5
I like to work with kids. It can be fun, but I do agree with Swans; I hate bratty kids. I mean, sometimes, if I'm babysitting or working at the day camp I work at, and I'm in a grouchy mood, I'll take my temper out on them. But working with them can be fun.
I work at a summer camp, as a junior consoler, so I'm assigned to a group. either the little kids or the older ones. The little kids are cute, but they can't do everything themselves, so you have to do it for them. (and they always have to go to the bathroom, which annoys me a bit.) The older kids can do things by themselves, and they can be cool, but if you yell at them for doing something, they just give you this "I'm only this many years younger than you, you can't boss me around" attitude. That can be annoying.
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Post by DetectiveDupin on Feb 7, 2004 13:59:07 GMT -5
btw, the top is Micheal Jackson...
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Post by embah on Feb 21, 2004 22:42:53 GMT -5
I know that some children just don't get the right discipline from their parents and teachers. Which is wrong. I don't think that children as young as say......8 should be punished for things which they didn't know was wrong, but in todays world, especially with the type of people around, children need the discipline. The thing is, most parents now a days don't want to be a parent, they want to be a buddy, so they let their teenage daughters or sons get tattoos and piercings wherever they want, and they let their children get away with throwing tantrums and they let they're kids get what they want. I'm a teenager myself, but I know that if I was way out of line for something, my parents would majorily go off at me, but like alot of other parents, they do it to keep me safe. I was sitting on the bus the other day, and this girl who only looked about 14 or 15 was telling her friends how she was going to court to testify against a man who nearly raped her after she went out drinking and partying with him. Then she went on to tell her friend how her mother wasn't going to tell her dad because she knew that he'd ground her. I was even more appalled when she went onto say that her mum said that she has to be home by 12:00pm every night. That really bugged me, not only the fact that her mother didn't mind her being out drinking and even sleeping with older men at that time of night, but also the fact that she was going to let her daughter continue that sort of behaviour. My point is, that parents aren't being hard enough on their children. I know that some children are very sensible and woudn't even want to disobey their parents, but some need that boundry or guideline to know when to stop.
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Post by DetectiveDupin on Feb 22, 2004 5:23:58 GMT -5
This is good, now we're saying parents are brats.
I think anyone can be brats. Not JUST children. Adults can be non understanding, and not co-operating with children, which is what will get the children do what they would like. For instance, my teacher told me off, because we had this story telling evening thingy on evening, and my mum and sister wanted to go early because they weren't enjoying it. Me and my brother wanted to stay with out friends. So, my quietly called me over to tell me that they were going. Then the next day, my teacher told me off for talking to my mum. How stupid is that? She didn't give a chance to explain anything at all, but just told me off. Adults are not always right, and they need to give children a chance to explain things.
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