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Post by xangelkimzx on May 1, 2004 15:16:41 GMT -5
Hello... well, I began this thread because today my mum told me about May Day and I felt strongly toward it and decided to start a thread.
About 100 years ago on the 1st May, some cotton makers (workers) did a protest because they weren't getting paid much at all, and all their families/kids/wives were starving and didn't have much hope in life. But the bosses, who were really rich and careless tried to make them work, but they didn't, so they got policemen to try and make them work, but they still didn't, so they shot them all to death. What do you think? I think it was wrong. Discuss.
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Antenora
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Post by Antenora on May 1, 2004 15:36:53 GMT -5
I'm in support of the workers, being lower-middle-class or thereabouts. What the factory managers did was unfair and cruel, but this sort of thing happened rather often around the time of the industrial revolution. Power to the proletariat! Isn't proletariat a cool word, by the way?
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Post by Madamluna on May 1, 2004 15:41:16 GMT -5
Kimia, if you disappear suddenly, should we assume that you got sent to the Ministry of Love?
If there is a future, it lies in the proles.
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Post by xangelkimzx on May 1, 2004 15:42:41 GMT -5
What does that mean?
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Post by Madamluna on May 1, 2004 16:01:30 GMT -5
Ever read 1984?
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Post by xangelkimzx on May 1, 2004 16:10:50 GMT -5
No, though I've heard of it... I saw my dad reading it when he visited me ages ago... what's it about? What exactly do you mean, Ministry of Love?
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Post by Madamluna on May 1, 2004 17:28:59 GMT -5
Without giving too much away, it's about a government worker, Winston Smith, in the year 1984. Which is supposed to be the far future since the book was written in the forties. Anyway, Winston works for the gummint of Oceania, basically Future England. His job is to "correct" information from newspapers--if the head honcho, Big Brother, predicts something and it turns out incorrect, for example, Winston is one of the many workers that go through the old newspapers and fix the articles.
There are four Ministries: the Ministry of Truth, which controls information input and output (where Winston works at), the Ministry of Peace (which is responsible for the endless warring between Oceania and the other two world powers, Eurasia and Eastasia), the Ministry of Plenty (which concerns itself with economics and the starving masses), and the Ministry of Love, which nobody really knows about, since nobody who ever goes into there returns. In reality it's a rehabilitation center concerned with torture for those who break the law, by either physical action or simply thinking unlawful thoughts (Thoughtcrime).
I'm a monkey for 1984 and Animal Farm.
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Post by xangelkimzx on May 1, 2004 17:34:06 GMT -5
I didn't really get that, sorry...
But yes, I have read Animal Farm, and seen the play aswell. Even though it was boring at parts but i had to read it cuz my mum made me, I think it had a good message. The animals were meant to be people of Russia, right? And it was really good how the book showed you what's going on in the world.
I am all for freedom and equality. Infact I like that quote that was made in the French Revolution (LibertÉ, EqualitÉ and something else) but I can't remember it all because we did it ages ago in history and I forgot to note it down for future reference.
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Post by Madamluna on May 1, 2004 17:51:07 GMT -5
FYI, "Liberté, Egalité, Fraternité." If you liked Animal Farm, 1984 kicks its rear end, so I highly recommend picking it up even if I'm utterly incapable of explaining it to you.
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Post by xangelkimzx on May 2, 2004 15:10:03 GMT -5
OK, I'll try taking it out of my Swedish uncle's suitcase when he's next round  |
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