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Post by Invisible on Jan 4, 2011 17:19:50 GMT -5
I'm not sure if there's already a thread for this subject and I'm sorry if there is. But I was thinking about it just now and I realised I don't know any of your gay characters in the series. So this is the place where you can talk about them and why you decided to make them gay. So here are mine. Mrs. Bass: She didn't come out the closet until she was a married mother of one in her fifties, which was the reason why she divorced her husband. She has a domestic partner from Japan named Yuki. I was sort of inspired by Katharine from Desperate Housewives but I've always seen her as gay, despite the fact Daniel gave her a married name. Tony (The One That Looks Like Neither a Man Nor a Woman): This was sort of a hard one, considering he's a man-to-woman transsexual in my ficverse. But I would consider him/her gay. He/She likes men, by the way. Very, very, very, very, very, very into men  Charles: He was upset when he realised he was gay and often turned to his cousin, Kit, for advice. But over time, he came to accept it and he is now in a relationship with Sir ;D Sir: This is similar to Mrs. Bass' backstory. He was married with two daughters until he met Charles. He realised he was bisexual. Count Olaf: Yes. Yes, Olaf in my ficverse is bisexual. He's only been in relationships with women, though he did have a one-time, drunken fling with Bertrand (who was experimenting before he married Beatrice.) I don't know why I decided to make him bi, I just thought it was hilarious  Anyway, what are yours? |
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Post by Emma “Emmz” Squalor on Jan 4, 2011 19:42:04 GMT -5
Great idea for a thread, Beth, even if it has been done before (though I don't know for certain if it has).  Charles and Sir: Not sure what to say about these two, other than I agree with the conclusion many fans have drawn upon that these two are lovers. Jacques Snicket: I can't remember exactly what first inspired this; it was either May's and my RPG, A Tale of Three Friends, or Advice, a fic by Phoebonica, in which Jacques is in love with Jerome, who sadly refuses to admit his true feelings. In A Tale of Three Friends, Jacques' feelings turned out to be an identity crisis, but in my personal ficverse, I chose to have him be 100% gay. |
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Post by Invisible on Jan 5, 2011 8:02:37 GMT -5
Aww, poor Jacques. I hope there's someone out there for him!
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Post by Hermes on Jan 6, 2011 12:22:24 GMT -5
Sir and Charles, obviously. (They may come up in a future episode of TGG, if I ever manage to write it.)
Bruce. In the hotel, a voice is heard saying 'Come back to bed, Bruce', and then later 'A man called for Bruce'. (Yes, it could be two different people - they are different scenes - but that would be dull, wouldn't it?)
The duchess. I imagine her being in love with Beatrice, which is why she gave up the ring which had traditionally been passed from mother to daughter.
And if I ever get round to writing about the future - Sunny. I think it would be nice, given Lemony's 'I'm afraid it will be quite some time...', if one of Beatrice's daughters married a woman - and as Violet has already shown an interest in the opposite sex, Sunny it is. I have thought of a potential wife for her - not an ASOUE character - but whether I will ever write about her I can't say.
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Post by Tiago James Squalor on Jan 6, 2011 12:27:34 GMT -5
Sir and Charles - They're so gay it's blantant, at least in my opinion.
Hector - I don't know, he just strikes me as gay. A guy, living alone, repressed by his fellow townspeople, wanting to break free by building a hot air mobile home. Sounds like a metaphor for coming out for me.
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Post by Invisible on Jan 6, 2011 12:31:49 GMT -5
And if I ever get round to writing about the future - Sunny. I think it would be nice, given Lemony's 'I'm afraid it will be quite some time...', if one of Beatrice's daughters married a woman - and as Violet has already shown an interest in the opposite sex, Sunny it is. I have thought of a potential wife for her - not an ASOUE character - but whether I will ever write about her I can't say. Yeah, I always thought she would be gay later in life, too, and not just because she and Beatrice II are close in age. But like you said, I don't write much about Sunny, especially her sexuality. |
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Post by Seymour Glass on Jan 7, 2011 12:00:57 GMT -5
Sir and Charles: For obvious reasons.
Bruce Spats: For all the same reasons Hermes gave.
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Post by Meriwether on Jan 7, 2011 23:16:02 GMT -5
Sir and Charles - They're so gay it's blantant, at least in my opinion. Hector - I don't know, he just strikes me as gay. A guy, living alone, repressed by his fellow townspeople, wanting to break free by building a hot air mobile home. Sounds like a metaphor for coming out for me. I second this. |
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Post by Hermes on Jan 8, 2011 16:16:12 GMT -5
Yeah, I always thought she would be gay later in life, too, and not just because she and Beatrice II are close in age. Oh, I definitely wouldn't like a romance between Sunny and Beatrice; that would be close to incest. |
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Post by Tiago James Squalor on Jan 8, 2011 16:30:20 GMT -5
Yeah, I always thought she would be gay later in life, too, and not just because she and Beatrice II are close in age. Oh, I definitely wouldn't like a romance between Sunny and Beatrice; that would be close to incest. I second this. Even if adoptive, when people are raised together, inhibition kicks in. Hopefully. |
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Post by Christmas Chief on Jan 8, 2011 18:25:27 GMT -5
Yeah, I always thought she would be gay later in life, too, and not just because she and Beatrice II are close in age. Oh, I definitely wouldn't like a romance between Sunny and Beatrice; that would be close to incest. Is incest defined as people related, or, as Tiago says, people who grow up together? Sunny and Beatrice aren't related at all (well, not closely anyway), but they do have a mother-daughter relationship. Supposedly. |
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Post by Lady Whatever on Jan 8, 2011 20:11:13 GMT -5
Maybe I'm being nitpicky, but I don't think that Violet showing a heterosexual interest in Quigley automatically disqualifies her from having romantic feelings for women. I speak as a woman who has been in relationships with people of both sexes, why not let Violet at least be bi-curious? And I'm not just saying this because she, a brainy, resourceful, mechanically minded girl is my dream woman.
Onto other matters, I am going to add my voice to the chorus of Charles/Sir and Hector. I would also, were I the fanfiction writing type, probably have the powdered faced women be lesbians, for reasons based on their characterization in the book that are difficult to articulate. To be honest, I don't think any woman could remain heterosexual after being in Count Olaf's company for as long as they have been. (Somewhat tongue in cheek, I promise!)
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Post by Seymour Glass on Jan 8, 2011 21:55:12 GMT -5
The powdered face women are sisters.
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Post by Lady Whatever on Jan 8, 2011 22:14:17 GMT -5
I know. I didn't mean with each other, I meant that in general, they would share a romantic attraction towards women.
However, if they were incestuous in a fanfic, it could be an interesting historical shout-out to Michael Field, since that was the pseudonym of an aunt and niece who were in an incestuous relationship, Katherine Bradley and Edith Cooper. They wrote poetry together under that nom de plume, and their shared pseudonym functioned as a way of declaring their inseparable oneness, the way that the two powder-faced women are always together and share a tragedy of a lost sibling, like the Quagmires.
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Post by Invisible on Jan 10, 2011 13:19:28 GMT -5
Oh, I definitely wouldn't like a romance between Sunny and Beatrice; that would be close to incest. Is incest defined as people related, or, as Tiago says, people who grow up together? Sunny and Beatrice aren't related at all (well, not closely anyway), but they do have a mother-daughter relationship. Supposedly. I wouldn't say that. To me, incest is parent/child, sibling/sibling. (I'm not too fussed about cousins, though in this day and age, I would think it's unusual.) And since Beatrice II and Sunny are simply legally related, it's not incest. |
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