Phil's whereabouts- comenting thread

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Phil's whereabouts

It's about Phil's whereabouts. When we look back, we see Kit Snicket metioning that she met with captain Widdershins, Fiona and Fernald, which were back again. But in TGG, when the Baudelaires and Fiona are back from The Grim Grotto, the submarine is completly empty, no-one was there. Which leaves us to wonder what happened to Phil, who was in the submarine with captain Widdershins.

One might think that Kit just forgot to mention Phil, who, being the optimist that he is, would believe that the Great Unknown is a friend. But would Lemony\Kit really not mention that? Although Phil might've been right- if he actually was with the captain when they were "swallowed" by the Great Unknown-, that the Great Unknown is good, because in TGG it seems like captain Widdershins knew what it is and he would never let Fiona and Fernald go with someone\something that would kill them.

And that's actually a big contradiction in the series, since captain Widdershins also seems to be afraid of The Great Unknown in TGG.

But back to Phil. If he actually left the submarine with captain Widdershins, he might have died while swimming in the ocean, afterall, he was really happy when he was bitten by a shark and he might have thought it was a great opportunity to be eaten by a sea creature. And also, if you think again, he was bitten by a shark, so he would be in terrible conditions to swim at all. That could've also resulted in his death.

There's also the possibility that Phil didn't die, that he and Widdershins went separate ways. That Phil swam to the surface and started to live in some island or shore.

But would Phil's silly mind really doubt Widdershins' sense of direction and of what's the right thing to do? I highly doubt that. That's why I'll stick to the theory that he died.

[Hermes]

Widdershins and Phil left, it seems, because the swimming woman summoned them. Where she took them we do not know. Later, Kit came and contacted the captain - again, it's not clear why - and he returned to the submarine, along with Fiona and Fernald, and tried to repair it. Perhaps Phil didn't go with him because he had some other task to do.

I think Phil probably survived, because some people from these events must have survived to become Lemony's informants.

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Nice theory, I didn't think of that.

[Christmas Chief]

It seems to me Phil likely survived (he survived from TAA-TGG, when the Baudelaires' were having their adventures), although you make a good point about his leg. I don't think he'd be so careless as to let himself be eaten by a sea creature, though; there's little evidence in ASOUE that supports the idea that optimism leads to recklessness.

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^Indeed, but maybe a sea creature was lurking up on him and instead of resisting and fighting it, he just let himself go. I don't know.

[colette]

I love Phil! I hope he survived! He is funny and cute!