amyj999
Bewildered Beginner
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Post by amyj999 on Aug 9, 2011 6:33:09 GMT -5
I have always wondered about Beatrice.
She looks like she is mother of Baudelaires, but her death is kinda strange..
What do you think about her?
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Post by Dante on Aug 9, 2011 6:45:48 GMT -5
What do you think is strange about her death, amyj999? It's actually quite hard to say anything about it, since it (fortunately) occurs off-screen.
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Post by Sora on Aug 9, 2011 23:40:41 GMT -5
Are you perhaps questioning the validity of her death? Before we even began considering Beatrice to be the Baudelaires' mother (or perhaps, before the mystery of Beatrice was even on our radar), we knew she had died in a fire. The TAA triptych basically lays it out for us. However, the passageway under their house to 667 Dark Avenue has always been a stick in the mud for me considering the two grown Baudelaire adults would have been awake and surely capable of running to their escape route.
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Post by colette on Aug 11, 2011 15:34:04 GMT -5
I think it is obvious that she died in a fire in her masion
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Post by Sophie Baudelaire on Sept 20, 2011 13:04:59 GMT -5
It is possible that Lemony thinks she is dead, but she actually isn't, which makes her being the Baudelaires' mother possible.
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Post by Dante on Sept 20, 2011 13:11:24 GMT -5
She is the Baudelaires' mother, and her death, real or mistaken, came much later than their births.
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Post by Sophie Baudelaire on Sept 20, 2011 17:54:22 GMT -5
I agree
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Post by Christmas Chief on Sept 22, 2011 15:59:12 GMT -5
However, the passageway under their house to 667 Dark Avenue has always been a stick in the mud for me considering the two grown Baudelaire adults would have been awake and surely capable of running to their escape route. If it was arson, though, I'm sure that would have been taken care of. The passageway may have been blocked off, there could have been an enemy waiting at the exit, the fire could have been strategically arranged so that their exit would have been inaccessible .... It's like any other door, really, only this one is in the floor of their home and leads underground. |
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Post by B. on Oct 7, 2011 13:08:20 GMT -5
The possible Beatrice's are:
1. the boat that sank
2. Kit Snicket's daughter
3. and Lemony's Beatrice.
I personally believe that Beatrice (Lemony's) was the Baudelaire mother. It is strongly hinted at.
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Post by Dante on Oct 7, 2011 13:37:50 GMT -5
It's pretty much outright stated; I don't think anybody seriously considers Lemony's Beatrice and the Baudelaire mother to be separate characters by now.
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Post by B. on Oct 7, 2011 16:23:17 GMT -5
It's pretty much outright stated; I don't think anybody seriously considers Lemony's Beatrice and the Baudelaire mother to be separate characters by now. I did come across someone who believed them to be separate people...... whoswhohp.tripod.com/lemony/unauto/conclude.html |
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Post by Hermes on Oct 7, 2011 16:34:14 GMT -5
I'm fairly sure that was written before the end of the series - at that point, at least until TBL, there was room for doubt. The End makes it explicit that the Baudelaires' mother was called Beatrice, and that it was she who received the ring from Lemony and later returned it, so after that I think we have to consider it settled.
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Post by B. on Oct 8, 2011 4:15:55 GMT -5
I'm fairly sure that was written before the end of the series - at that point, at least until TBL, there was room for doubt. The End makes it explicit that the Baudelaires' mother was called Beatrice, and that it was she who received the ring from Lemony and later returned it, so after that I think we have to consider it settled. Oh yes.........the story of Lemony and Beatrice is pretty sad  |
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Post by Patrick Dunks on Oct 8, 2011 10:02:50 GMT -5
She is the mother of Baudelaire. But Baudelaire also put the name of the daughter of Kit Snicket of Beatrice... Have u read the book, The Beatrice Letters? I'm sorry, but im Brazilian and I don't speak english very well...
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Post by Dante on Oct 8, 2011 13:25:14 GMT -5
Don't worry, Patrick, I think we can understand you. I'm sure that most of us have read The Beatrice Letters, which to a certain extent sets out to confuse, but which is pretty straightforward after you've read The End. Kit wanted the Baudelaires to name her daughter in tribute to their late mother, as I recall it.
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