Ages

[Very Funky Disco]

I don't think Carmelita would be as popular at her school, if she was twelve but acted younger. After all, the "cool" teenagers are usually all about being "mature".

[Seymour Glass]

Feb 14, 2012 9:59:14 GMT -5 Very Funky Disco said:

I don't think Carmelita would be as popular at her school, if she was twelve but acted younger. After all, the "cool" teenagers are usually all about being "mature".

That's where I disagree. The popular kids are not even nearly as mature as they believe themselves to be.

[Very Funky Disco]

Well, yeah, that's true. Still, I can't imagine the "cool" teens thinking that the outfit Carmelita wore in The Grim Grotto isn't childish. In order to be accepted in the "cool crowd", you're pretty much expected to give up all stereotypically "kiddie" stuff. You're not suppose to like what your parents like, but you're also not supposed to like what little kids like.

[Seymour Glass]

True. But keep in mind that the Snicket-verse is no ordinary universe. People get picked on just for being orphaned or ambidexterous.

Also, I don't think Carmelita is popular at all. I think she deluded herself into thinking she's more popular than she actually is.

[Hermes]

People get picked on for being orphaned in the real world. Not sure about ambidextrous, but it wouldn't surprise me if it happened sometimes. (People certainly have been picked on for being left-handed). And anyhow, the mocking of Kevin's ambidexterity is a device to make the freak-show work; it's not clear it would happen in ordinary life.

As for Carmelita - well, perhaps she's instinctively immature but manages to suppress it when she's at school, letting it out when she's with her indulgent uncle or the even more indulgent Esme. I'd take her to be quite close in age to the Baudelaires - my guess is that Prufrock Prep (which appears only to have two teachers) doesn't have children of all ages, but only eleven upwards or thereabouts.

[Sophie Baudelaire]

Yeah, Hermes, I guess you're right. She probably just acted immature when she was around adults, in order to get attention. However, I still think she's about a year younger than Klaus.

As for the ages of the other characters, I generally agree with Very Funky Disco.

[colette]

10- (were born after 00's):
1.Sunny(obviously)
2.Beatrice II
3. Friday(6-7)
4.Carmelita( 7 - 9)

10-15: (1993-1998)
1.Klaus
2. Albert Poe(the same age with Klaus)
4. Violet

16 -20(1992-1988):
1.Quagmires - I imagine Isadora and Duncan to be short( Isadora is 5'1 and Duncan is 5'4 or 5'5), so they seemed to be 13 or 14 but they were 15 when they met Baudelaires. So, they are 1 year older then Violet.
2.All 3 freaks (I am crazy! But it is not too make the end too weird)
3. Edgar Poe( one year older than Violet).
4. Fiona( two years older than Violet, was born in 1991, so in TGG she was 17).

Early-middle 20's:
Esme Squalor( was 25 in TEE)

Late 20's:
Lemony Snicket and Kit Snicket(are twins in my ficverse, Kit died in the age of 28)
Miranda Caliban( was 28 in TE)
White-faced woman 1(26 in TBB and 27 in TSS) Her name is Jennifer in my ficverse.

Early 30's:
Geraldinne Julien
Beatrice I
Sir & Charles
White-faced woman 2( 32 in TBB)
Fernald( 32 in TBB)

Late 30's:
Mrs Morrow( was 36 in TVV and 37 in TPP)

Early 40's:
Jerome Squalor
Thursday Caliban

Late 40's:
Madame Lulu( 46 when she died(TCC))
Mr Lesko

50's:
Aunt Josephine

60's:
Uncle Monty.

VERY old:
Ishmael
Hal
Humphrey Anwhistle

[Very Funky Disco]

For awhile, Wikipedia did have all three "freaks" listed as teenagers - but I think they're all well into their adulthood.

[colette]

Where is it? Give a link, please!

[Seymour Glass]

I don't think it's on there anymore.

[counto]

My Ficverse Ages:

Lemony Snicket was born in 1901, he was 13 in 1914 when he joined VFD in ATWQ. During A Series of Unfortunate Events which takes place in 1948-1950, Lemony is 49 years old soon turning 50. By the time Beatrice II first meets him in 1956, Lemony is 55.

Beatrice and Bertrand born 1902, married 27 on the Island after the Schism starts. 45-46 by the time by the Bad Beginning. 

Violet born in 1933 is 14 at the start of ASOUE, but turns 15 in the events of The Grim Grotto. In Chapter Fourteen she's 16 years old. By the time Beatrice II is seven she's age 23.

Klaus born 1935 is 13 in the Bad Beginning, later turns 14 while incarnated in The Vile Village. By the time they leave the Island Klaus is almost 15. In 1956, he's 21.

Sunny being two years old is four in The End. She'd be an adult by age 18 in 1965.

Count Olaf is 57-58 throughout the series, born 1891. His hair was auburn red as a child but started to turn grey in his early 20's.

Fiona is a year older than Violet being born in 1932, making her 16-17 during the Grim Grotto.

The Quagmires (Isodora, Duncan and Quigley) born 1934, all three 14 in the Austere Academy.

Carmelita Spats born the same year and age as Klaus.

Monty born 1898, age 50 by the Reptile Room. Started studying reptiles for forty years from 1908 at age 10.

Josephine born 1889, age 59 almost 60 in the Wide Window. ATWQ in 1914 she's 25. Same age as Ike would have been. 

Georgina Orwell born 1903, age 45 in the Miserable Mill. 

Esme and Jerome Squalor both 47-48, born 1901. 

Poe is 48 to 49 being born in 1900.

Eleanora (Poe's Sister) is 50 before she gets killed by Geraldine Julienne in The Ersatz Elevator for Esme. 

Ishmael age 98 in The End, dies shortly after the evacuation of the Island. Born same year as Hemran Melville's Moby Dick released (1851).

Justice born in 1897, she's 52 in the Penultimate Peril.

Fernald (Hook Handed Man) born 1918, age 18 when he burns down Answhistle Aquatics in 1936. Age 31 in The Grim Grotto. 

The Denouement Triplets (Frank, Ernest and Dewey) born 1928, age 4 when Olaf burns their house down. 21 by the Penultimate Peril. 

Jacques and Kit Snicket both born January 12th, 1899. ATWQ in 1914 age 15. Jacques age 50 in the Vile Village. Kit age 50 in The End .  

[counto]

Character Ages:
Ishmael (age 98) Born: 1851
The Sinister Duo (age 73) Born: 1875
Mrs Bass and Mr Remora (age 66-67) Born: 1882
Josephine (age 65) Born: 1883
Hal (age 65) Born: 1886
Sir (age 59-60) Born: 1891
Captain Widdershins (age 59) Born: 1890
Count Olaf (age 57-58) Born: 1891
Nero (age 55-56) Born: 1892
Kevin (age 55) Born: 1893
Babs (age 55) Born: 1894
Bruce Spats (age 54-55) Born: 1894
The Bald Man (age 53-54) Born: 1895
Mr and Mrs Spats (age 52) Born: 1896
Gustav sebald (age 52) Born: 1896
Eleanora Poe (age 52) Born: 1896
Justice Strauss (age 51-52) Born: 1897
Hugo (age 51) Born: 1898
Monty (age 50) Born: 1898
Jacques and Kit Snicket (age 49-50) Born: January 12th, 1899
Arthur and Polly Poe (age 48-49) Born: 1900
Lemony Snicket (age 47-48) Born: 1901
Jerome Squalor (age 47-48) Born: 1901
Esme Squalor (age 47-48) Born: 1901
Hector (age 47) Born: 1901
Duchess R (age 46-47) Born: 1902
Beatrice and Bertrand (age 46) Born: 1902
Georgina Orwell (age 45) Born: 1903
Mr and Mrs Quagmire (age 44) Born: 1904
Olivia Caliban (age 44) Born: 1904
Geraldine Julienne (age 43-44) Born: 1904
Miranda Caliban (age 42) Born: 1907
Thursday (age 42) Born: 1907
Phil (age 40-41) Born: 1908
The Henchperson of Indeterminate Gender (age 38-39) Born: 1910
Colette (age 39) Born: 1910
The White Faced Women (age 37-38) Born: 1911
Charles (age 35-36) Born: 1913
Fernald (age 30-31) Born: 1918
Frank, Ernest and Dewey Denouement (age 29) Born: 1924
Fiona (age 17) Born: 1932
Isadora, Duncan and Quigley Quagmire (age 14-15) Born: 1934
Violet (age 14-15) Born: 1933
Klaus (age 12-13) Born: 1935
Carmelita (age 12-13) Born: 1935
Edgar Poe (age 11-12) Born: 1937
Albert Poe (age 10-11) Born: 1938
Friday Caliban (age 6-7) Born: 1942
Sunny (age 2-3) Born: 1946
Beatrice Baudelaire II Born: 1949 

[Seymour Glass]

Feb 14, 2012 9:59:14 GMT -5 Very Funky Disco said:

I don't think Carmelita would be as popular at her school, if she was twelve but acted younger. After all, the "cool" teenagers are usually all about being "mature".

Carmelita wasn't popular at all and she obviously doesn't care if her peers think she's mature or not.

[Hermes]

Yes, there is little sign in the books that C is popular (the show is different, of course), and she certainly isn't popular among the Snow Scouts. I guess people assume she is because her arrogance fits the 'Popular Girl' stereotype, but while Popular Girls may be arrogant, it doesn't follow that everyone who is arrogant is popular. (And of course being actually popular is different from being a Popular Girl anyway.)

[counto]

I been thinking recently about the adult characters ages in ASOUE. Mainly about Lemony's age in the actual series, which I always thought that he would be in either his late 30's or early 40's around that time. Presumably 37-38 since Lemony faked his death age 23 a year at least before Violet was born. 23 + 14 = 37.

Beatrice being a year younger than Lemony would likely have been 36 in TBB. Which is interesting because 36 is considered an unlucky number in Judaism. Plus since Daniel Handler himself is Jewish that would make sense. Plus everyone apparently is Jewish in the book series. 

With Jacques and Kit being older siblings (two years as believed by fans), they would be both 40 before their deaths. Now being 40 and pregnant with Beatrice II for Kit maybe sceptical considering how most women in their 40's go through menopause between the ages of 45 and 55. It still would be possible since premature menopause at age 40 would still be able to have children by then.

The Denouement Triplets and Count Olaf are in their early 40's. Denouements being 41 in TPP and Olaf possibly 42 (looks older due to years of villainy).

This what we have so far: 

(Main): 

Beatrice I (36) 
Bertrand (37?) 
Lemony (37-38) 
Jacques & Kit (40) 
Denouements (41) 
Olaf (41-42) 

(Others): 

Esme (34-35 if she was born 2 years after Beatrice) 
Georgina (Same age group as Esme) 
Jerome (Either 38 or 40 depending) 
Mr Poe (Probably 5-7 years older than Lemony aged 44-45) 
Josephine (Possibly late 40's) 
Monty (Mid or Early 50's since he studied herpetology for 40 years) 
Justice (Same age range as Monty) 
Bass and Remora (65, if they started teaching age 18 for 47 years/18+47=65) 
Sinister Duo (Early or mid 60's) 
Hal and Ishmael (Much older by 30 or 40 years, 70-100 years old)