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Post by Agathological on Dec 28, 2013 15:32:07 GMT -5
Hello all,
Evidently I am new here, I registered here because I don't think anyone mentioned this that I thought was significant: Who Moxie Mallahan's mother is:
Dr. Georgia Orwell.
Evidence?
On pp. 194 Moxie says "My mother said a good polite voice is the journalists best tool because people are more likely to tell you important information if you treat them nicely. She had an expression for it-you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar." Dr. Georgia Orwell mentioned the same phrase to Violet in The Miserable Mill and Orwell displayed a sort of faux-niceness, most likely to get info from the Baudelaire's. This bit seals it in my eyes;
Moxie mentions in pp. 119 that "Many issues of the newspaper have gone missing. My mother took some when she left town,..." Paltryville's interesting sight are the stacks of newspapers; chances are they are copies of the Stain'd Lighthouse.
Any thoughts?
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Post by Teleram on Dec 28, 2013 16:05:09 GMT -5
I don't think it's enough to convince me, sorry. A good polite voice and a faux-niceness ae quite different things.
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Post by The Duchess on Dec 28, 2013 17:33:09 GMT -5
Um, I think that in TUA kit says that the stacks were an archive of the daily punctilo.
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Post by Skelly Craig on Dec 28, 2013 19:19:38 GMT -5
Depending on whether Duchess is right about the TUA explanation this does seem like a theory worth considering. The "proof" doesn't seal the deal for me though, but at the least it is interesting to know that Snicket re-used a phrase from The Miserable Mill in ATWQ.
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Post by bandit on Dec 28, 2013 20:49:36 GMT -5
I remember somebody bringing this up before, I don't remember who though. The thing you have to keep in mind is that this is decades before the Baudelaires meet Dr. Orwell, and she wasn't an old woman in TMM.
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Post by Skelly Craig on Dec 28, 2013 22:35:49 GMT -5
Twist: Maybe Dr. Orwell is a descendant of the Mallahans and got the phrase from one of her parents, which may or may have not been Moxie.
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Post by thefourthsnicket on Dec 29, 2013 8:55:02 GMT -5
Dante, I know you want us to figure out what else the tadpoles could be on our own, but I'm drawing a blank. The only thing I can think of that would make sense is baby Bombinating Beasts, but that's a bit of a stretch. Certainly, I'm dubious about the Bombinating Beast ever having really existed. I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but I think the Bombinating Beast is most likely a real creature. What is it that Widdershins is so afraid of in B11 that shows up on the radar as a ?. What is it that lurks in the water in the last illustration of B13, also shaped as a ?. I always thought that this was the Bombinating Beast... Just a theory. |
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Post by Teleram on Dec 29, 2013 14:36:12 GMT -5
Many people think that the Bombinating Beast might be the big question mark (The Great Unkonwn) at the end of TE, including myself. Although I'm not sure what you mean by 'real'. Real as in, you think it exists in real-life?
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Post by bandit on Dec 29, 2013 15:00:33 GMT -5
In the story it's supposed to be a mythical creature, but it will end up being real. That's what they mean.
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Post by Teleram on Dec 29, 2013 16:25:09 GMT -5
Right. I knew that.
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Post by Agathological on Jan 3, 2014 20:40:48 GMT -5
I wish we didn't have to wait so long for the next one in the series; it's a shame you can read it all in the span of an hour or two...
So what do we know will happen in the next book? Since I am new here, I don't really understand how you get all your info! (Which I will guess will be called "Where is that smoke coming from?")
Also, and this is a little bit off-topic; but has the paper back version of The Miserable Mill and all subsequent remakes been canceled? It is a shame if it is; I love seeing the new Helquist drawings of characters not drawn previously.
~Agathological;the study of good
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Post by Antenora on Jan 3, 2014 22:11:53 GMT -5
Personally, I think Moxie's honey-and-vinegar line is just another case of Handler messing with us; he knows we're on the lookout for ASoUE connections and makes a lot of fairly irrelevant allusions. Also, the UA does state (p. 75) that the Punctilio archives are in Paltryville. Also, and this is a little bit off-topic; but has the paper back version of The Miserable Mill and all subsequent remakes been canceled? It is a shame if it is; I love seeing the new Helquist drawings of characters not drawn previously. ~Agathological;the study of good Alas, they were cancelled. But one of the paperback bonus materials can be now be found in complete form online-- the wonderful Spoily Brats comic. |
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Post by Agathological on Jan 5, 2014 12:11:24 GMT -5
So what exactly is this book that is coming on April Fools day? There is like no info on it anywhere...Snicket doesn't update his sit anymore
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Post by Dante on Jan 5, 2014 16:59:10 GMT -5
It's more that it hasn't been formally announced yet, though I'm sure it can't be long. The publishers were probably waiting until after the Christmas rush, when they would have been more interested in selling ?1 and ?2. If you look here and here, you'll find out plenty about File Under: 13 Suspicious Incidents and even be able to read a thirteenth of it. |
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Post by Agathological on Jan 5, 2014 17:55:28 GMT -5
Many thanks Dante.
If looks that we might have a picture of Mimi Mitchum...though she looks more older than I imagined
another thing I've noticed is the constant pun of Theodora not revealing what the S. Stands for...what is the point in it?
book the 4th will be called What Does The S. Stand For? I bet it
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