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Post by MisterM on Oct 11, 2014 4:18:51 GMT -5
people have different ideas about what she looks like. seth clearly thinks shes incredibly old.
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Post by Dante on Oct 11, 2014 5:34:55 GMT -5
I could've sworn there was a line in ?1 indicating that she was relatively young, but I haven't been able to find it again. But Handler doesn't tend to overdescribe his characters, so you'd have a lot of leeway in casting just about anyone from either ASoUE or ATWQ. Black Theodora? Sure, why not?
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Post by A comet crashing into Earth on Oct 11, 2014 7:01:13 GMT -5
I could've sworn there was a line in ?1 indicating that she was relatively young, but I haven't been able to find it again. I had a very similar experience - I remember something from the beginning of ?1 along the lines of Snicket noting that Theodora looked quite good, but that he would never have told her so. Admittedly, it would be a bit uncharacteristic for Snicket as a character - not as a narrator, though - to say that kind of thing, and true enough, when I came across a picture of an older Theodora than I'd been expecting in ?3, and went back to look, it wasn't there. As for a black Theodora, I never really thought about which colour skin she might have. But the more I think about it, the more I like the idea. |
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Post by Strangely on Oct 11, 2014 7:14:44 GMT -5
I think what I find most difficult to imagine is how they'd present the overall style when each book changes the scenery, and how it'd translate to the marketing of the whole show. TV shows usually have a set number of sceneries that are shown interchanged throughout the series (like with Atlantic City/Chicago/couple other places in Boardwalk Empire, f.ex.) or maybe change the setting a bit with a new season, but considering the show's look would change so drastically with each adapted book (so every episode or every second one), I think it'd seem more like a Twilight Zone-esque anthology thing. One week it looks like a different take on Emergency Room, the other week's like LOST, and another week it's a gothic Mad Men. It's not impossible to pull off, but they'd have to introduce some major creative changes to translate the books into a coherent TV show. Regarding the story having been already read by many people wouldn't worry me though; it worked for Harry Potter and Game of Thrones, too. I don't think that's all that much of a problem, there are plenty of shows that on a week to week basis drastically change the scenery. Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated, Pushing Daisies and Warehouse 13 come to mind. Really if coherency is the problem than just use Lemony Snicket as the anchor for the series, make the consistent location in every episode his office or something like that. And so long as the set designers do their job location changes shouldn't be horrifically jarring. Pushing Daisies for instance jumped from large cities to mountains to theme parks to suburban neighborhoods to windmills without feeling inconsistent. It fit together in a clear and coherent style. They built that world so that all those odd settings could fit together, so I'm remarkably sure the same can be done for the Snicket world. And really not all the places they go in the series is all that different. Books 1,3,4,5,6,7,12 take place in cities (With 1,6,12 being the same city and 5 being almost interchangeable with that city anyhow). Then there are smaller cities, usually taking on a specific stereotype (Secluded lakeside town, village, etc). Then we have a house, a hospital and a circus, which should all easily fit in with the overall look of the world. The few real wildcard locations end up being the submarine, the Mortmain mountain and the island. So most of the locations should fit into a coherent landscape, leaving us with only a few oddball locales. So I'd say odds are good that they can make it work. |
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Post by gliquey on Oct 11, 2014 7:58:04 GMT -5
Really if coherency is the problem than just use Lemony Snicket as the anchor for the series, make the consistent location in every episode his office or something like that. I quite like that idea. Along similar lines, you could have him wandering around the ruins of each new location at the start of each episode - picking up a gum wrapper for TMM or wandering around the ruins of the school in TAA. If you wanted to abandon Snicket as a character in the series, you could have the Baudelaires at Mr. Poe's house at the start of every episode, or in his office, and he tells them about their new guardian(s) in a cold opening. I think the island is the real outlier. It's the only one I can't really imagine properly. |
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Post by Tryina Denouement on Oct 11, 2014 8:09:37 GMT -5
I imagine the island as some kind of tropical place, perhaps a hour's voyage from the nearest mainland.
I like the idea very much, gliquey. But I prefer that Lemony shows up!
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Post by Tuesday on Oct 14, 2014 9:56:53 GMT -5
I like the idea of having each season possibly encompass three or four books each with interludes by Snicket scattered throughout each episode. You could possibly film a great deal of the episodes in one go so that the actors would not age very much while also telling the story in a considerable length of time. Another option would to have a thirteen part miniseries that told one book per hour/ hour and a half long episode again with Snicket interspersed throughout as a cementing presence.
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Post by Tryina Denouement on Oct 14, 2014 10:55:26 GMT -5
Well, yeah, I agree with that idea. Let Snicket do a recap after 6 or 7 episodes/books, too!
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Post by facelesscreature on Oct 14, 2014 10:59:35 GMT -5
I agree with you Tuesday. I love the idea that each season encompass 3 or 4 books with intros by Lemony.
It would make the series last about 4 or 5 seasons without the cast aging too much. Also, the overall story could be written really well in that amount of time for the series.
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Post by Skelly Craig on Oct 14, 2014 13:26:43 GMT -5
4-5 seasons means 4-5 years, which I think would create age issues with actors as young as the characters (especially Sunny, but I guess she could be replaced). Not to mention that it's a gamble whether the ratings will allow for so many seasons. And if it ends up as only one season we'd have another adaptation of the same first three books.
And I don't think hour-and-a-half long episodes are a thing, that would just be a movie. Considering these posts, the movie we have gotten seems to have accomplished a lot what the people here hoped/hope for.
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Post by A comet crashing into Earth on Oct 14, 2014 16:17:17 GMT -5
It just dawned on me how well streaming services would go with an ASOUE tv show. Streaming services such as Netflix or HBO allow episodes of the same show to vary in length, since they don't have any time slots to fill on any channels. Personally, I think an adaption of each book in the series would ideally vary as much in length as the books themselves do - I mean, an adaptation of TE might feel a little cramped compared to one of TRR if it they both have to take up the same amount of time.
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Post by facelesscreature on Oct 15, 2014 11:13:37 GMT -5
If they adapt the show to fit numerous characters into the overall world without leaving plot holes (like the books did), then it could easily be done in 4 seasons. With every 4-5 episodes encompassing one entire book.
Therefore, I would say each season should have a typical 22 episode run.
(Note: If they can adapt the first three books into a 2 hour movie, then they could do this way better.)
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Post by Edwin on Nov 4, 2014 11:38:30 GMT -5
I'd still imagine an animated TV series would be the best way to showcase the books. I don't know where it would fit, though. It seems like a bit of a risk to create a series that will be of interest to a lot of people but not singly one group. This particularly since The End was published eight years ago. It seems likely (especially being America) that it would get cancelled pretty quickly because the episodes themselves would be difficult to contain into their own entity.
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Post by A comet crashing into Earth on Nov 5, 2014 15:26:19 GMT -5
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Post by gliquey on Nov 5, 2014 16:03:55 GMT -5
O.M.G.
I love how the article stays in-universe, treating Snicket and Handler as two distinct people.
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