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Post by Charles Vane on Jan 8, 2015 16:45:18 GMT -5
Short of changing human nature ... the only way to achieve a practical, livable peace in a world of competing nations is to take the profit out of war.
xoxo, gossip nixon
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Post by Poe's Coats Host Toast on Jan 8, 2015 19:13:46 GMT -5
It's a ridiculous comparison because one raped a minor and makes films of high cultural value, while the other one was a goddamn crook who raped whole countries by leading a long and pointless war out of egomania. "I'm not going to be the first American president to lose a war. (...) It is necessary for me to establish a winner image. Therefore, I have to beat somebody." —Nixon in 1969, six years before the Vietnam War finally ended In the words of Hunter S Thompson, he was "a merciless war criminal who bombed more people to death in Laos and Cambodia than the U.S. Army lost in all of World War II, and he denied it to the day of his death. When students at Kent State University, in Ohio, protested the bombing, he connived to have them attacked and slain by troops from the National Guard."
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Post by Charles Vane on Jan 8, 2015 19:43:40 GMT -5
as far as i know between nixon and allen only one of them is a rapist and its not nixon.
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Post by Charles Vane on Jan 8, 2015 20:00:15 GMT -5
i have no interest in that debate, i just don't like people using the word rape to mean something that is not rape.
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Post by Charles Vane on Jan 8, 2015 20:12:21 GMT -5
also, "I don't think that's what being debated here. Nicole is trying to argue you can still be appreciative of the positive aspects of a largely villified person, in the same way you can appreciate the movies of a bad person who was not villified. Terry has a lot of quotes he would like to share.", says someone.
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Post by bandit on Jan 8, 2015 20:35:07 GMT -5
"Rape" as in "to spoil or destroy a place" is a legitimate meaning of the word.
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Post by Charles Vane on Jan 8, 2015 21:57:27 GMT -5
"Rape" as in "to spoil or destroy a place" is a legitimate meaning of the word. dont care
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Post by Poe's Coats Host Toast on Jan 8, 2015 22:12:34 GMT -5
it's true whether you care or not tho also, "I don't think that's what being debated here. Nicole is trying to argue you can still be appreciative of the positive aspects of a largely villified person, in the same way you can appreciate the movies of a bad person who was not villified. Terry has a lot of quotes he would like to share.", says someone. And this is the type of dastardly comment that made me not be surprised at you liking Nixon. EDIT: I don't care to continue this new thread now any longer, though. Especially not with anons who pass on messages.
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Post by soufflé on Jan 8, 2015 22:55:34 GMT -5
goddamn crook who raped whole countries by leading a long and pointless war out of egomania 1- you dont know his motives bc you arent him 2- quotes are really frequently misattributed or taken out of context 3- he's not the only president who did things that potato ed over the country 4- henry kissinger made a ton of decisions for nixon 5- nicole doesn't have to approve of every single thing nixon did to be interested in him as a public figure i had such bad impressions about him that actually learning a little about him made him seem not as bad as his image. and good or bad, he's pretty interesting. same i mean he's by no means the best president ever but he's not as awful as people have made him out to be, just like reagan isn't the hero lots of conservatives make him out to be
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Post by Poe's Coats Host Toast on Jan 8, 2015 23:34:57 GMT -5
[quick disclaimer for my being hypocritical by continuing this thread.]goddamn crook who raped whole countries by leading a long and pointless war out of egomania 1- you dont know his motives bc you arent him True, but that doesn't change the results Nixon brought about. And you don't need to be a president to know that at a certain point Vietnam was one of the most hopeless wars ever (many years before it ended). 2- quotes are really frequently misattributed or taken out of context I actually made the effort to check on the direct context of at least half the quotes I posted. I don't know whether Pandora did the same. 4- henry kissinger made a ton of decisions for nixon Yep, Kissinger was quite awful as well, but he and Nixon were a team along with J. Edgar Hoover (until around Watergate, of course). 5- nicole doesn't have to approve of every single thing nixon did to be interested in him as a public figure Nobody said that; Nixon is doubtlessly an interesting figure, but Nicole specifically said that she likes him. I guess I'm fine with her liking Nixon, but when someone starts posting these inspirational quotes from him, I don't see why I can't post some Nixon quotes that are less inspirational. The quoting was just a direct response to Nicole's quoting.
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Post by Charles Vane on Jan 9, 2015 1:21:08 GMT -5
it's true whether you care or not tho dont care
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Post by Charles Vane on Jan 9, 2015 1:24:50 GMT -5
which is to say, rape has a very specific meaning in the world today and i think its already a word people try to twist and devalue.
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Post by Charles Vane on Jan 9, 2015 1:28:36 GMT -5
anyway, its not like i have standards. they were for the time before i cared about (lord) scott disick as a person.
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Post by Isadora Is a Door on Jan 9, 2015 3:36:39 GMT -5
I feel sorry for nixon, he had enough problems with the silence
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Post by Charles Vane on Jan 9, 2015 3:52:25 GMT -5
good one buddy
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