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Post by gliquey on Nov 16, 2016 13:53:04 GMT -5
Also I'm quite pleased they made both "uncle" and "aunt" different races than the children. It is of course possible for this to happen, through marriage or adoption, but it's always been a theory that the two were not actually relatives but rather members of VFD, and this supports that theory. Monty is the children's "late father's cousin's wife's brother" and Josephine is their "second cousin's sister-in-law", so if I understand family trees correctly neither of them are actually related by blood to the Baudelaires. So the guardians being different races is certainly possible - and with so little diversity and racist typecasting in the television industry, I'm glad they are. But of course they could be members of V.F.D. as well - in fact, I think it's almost a certainty that both of them are (in TSS we learn about the secret passage between the Quagmire mansion and the Reptile Room; in ATWQ, Josephine makes a "cameo", so to speak, as a friend of Lemony's). |
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Post by ryantrimble457 on Nov 16, 2016 14:03:24 GMT -5
I thought it was canon Jo and Monty were VFD? Retroactive canon (retcan?) but canon.
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Post by zinthaniel on Nov 16, 2016 14:03:31 GMT -5
Alfre looks beautiful, she's certainly a far cry from Meryl Streep's spinsterly interpretation of the character. 8 wonder how different Alfre will make her, exactly? She was very comical in the film. I like the way she sounds in the trailer. She's a great actress, her meltdown in Luke Cage confirms that. "I Didn't Want It!!" |
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Post by Hermes on Nov 16, 2016 14:15:49 GMT -5
I thought it was canon Jo and Monty were VFD? Retroactive canon (retcan?) but canon. Yes, they are, no doubt about it. But the film tried to make out they weren't really related, just connected through VFD, and I don't think that's necessary; there's no reason VFD families shouldn't intermarry (and after all, we know of a few romances within the organisation). |
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Post by Mr. Dent on Nov 16, 2016 14:22:19 GMT -5
Yes, they are, no doubt about it. But the film tried to make out they weren't really related, just connected through VFD, and I don't think that's necessary; there's no reason VFD families shouldn't intermarry (and after all, we know of a few romances within the organisation). I think it worked fine for the movie, since it was more of a standalone thing. They had to get across the idea that they were entrenched in this huge conspiracy as fast as possible, I think that was a fairly effective way to go about it. That said, there was never any inclination that they weren't related in the books, and since the Netflix series is aiming to adapt the whole series, I agree that it's not necessary. |
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Post by zinthaniel on Nov 16, 2016 14:43:52 GMT -5
I never thought they were related, even when reading the books. I think the moment Olaf turned out to not be their actual relative it set the tone from their. I prefer that as well, it's more interesting and mysterious that each of the orphans new guardians are not actually people who are related to them.
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Post by gliquey on Nov 16, 2016 14:51:35 GMT -5
I never thought they were related, even when reading the books. I think the moment Olaf turned out to not be their actual relative it set the tone from their. I prefer that as well, it's more interesting and mysterious that each of the orphans new guardians are not actually people who are related to them. I think that Mr. Poe said that Olaf was either their fourth cousin three times removed, or third cousin four times removed. Although I suppose that's sufficiently distant enough to not really consider him an actual relative. |
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Post by mortinson51 on Nov 16, 2016 16:15:00 GMT -5
I don't know if I more excited for new material or seeing how they will portray the characters differently. Aunt Jo defiantly looks happier and smiley in this picture but that's Probally because she is being swept away by that handsome captain sham.
I'm little sad we only have one character today I want a picture of Olaf and all his hentchman.
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Post by A comet crashing into Earth on Nov 16, 2016 17:11:43 GMT -5
I like Shirley (the hair and the blatantly careless breasts are great), but I Dr. Orwell looked better in the other picture - I imagine her as a more professional, dashing figure, someone who's scary because they're the first villain in the story not to be funny in some way. Her suit here looks slightly oversized and impractically minty for a character like that. Something I like is how Sir is wearing very white and squeaky clean clothes, underlining the fact that he doesn't actually do anything. The workers' uniforms aren't all that smudgey in contrast, but this seems like an early point in the story (since Sir is smiling - he's generally dissatisfied for most of the book, isn't he?), so I guess the Baudelaires have time to get dirty and work up the contrast. You might want to have your eyes checked. Violet's jumpsuit has mysterious brown smudges all over it and the other woman is covered in saw dust. I wouldn't expect them to get much dirtier though considering the main part of their job is debarking trees. Also Sir is wearing tan, only his shirt is white and very little of it is showing. Oh, well - by 'very white', I meant that the whiteness of the clothing was on a relative scale (i.e. that tan is 'more' white than, say, maroon or navy blue are), as implyed by the adverb of degree, 'very' (you wouldn't specify the degree of something absolute). The meaning behind it was that I like how Sir is wearing very light shades. I still don't see anything brown on Violet, but now that you've pointed out the sawdust on the other woman, I do see both that and the sawdust on Violet. In any case, don't you think the contrast is still there, and working well? |
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Post by Cafe SalMONAlla on Nov 16, 2016 20:11:05 GMT -5
I'm with Comet on Dr Orwell, but if the performance has the steely professionalism the character needs I won't mind the look so much.
Pity Ms Sinoitpecer doesn't have eye-patterned tights but other than that I'm happy with her.
Man, Bernadette Peters is doing a good Alfre Woodard impersonation in that photo.
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Post by zinthaniel on Nov 16, 2016 21:46:49 GMT -5
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Post by Mr. Dent on Nov 16, 2016 21:54:43 GMT -5
It was awesome seeing all that new content, and I'm loving the aesthetic and tone, but now I'm worried that it was all taken from tomorrow's trailer, and now it'll be underwhelming when I see it tomorrow... And, of course, ET uses the terrible fan wallpaper that uses the movie logo and misspells characters names. And of course they play comical bits while NPH talks about wanting Olaf to be genuinely sinister. No surprise there. Hearing them mention the internet is a bit jarring. Love the bit where the two White Faced Women are dressed up in Egyptian garb, wonder how on earth that'll tie into anything. ALSO DOCTOR ORWELL IS MENACING AS ALL HELL AND I LOVE IT. At around 1:03, there's a clip of a blonde woman coming through a trap door on a ship- could this be Jacquelyn? |
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Post by zinthaniel on Nov 16, 2016 22:17:11 GMT -5
I wish I knew how to extract that video.
And I noted the woman too, I am wondering who she is. I doubt it's Jaquelyn mainly because we already have an actor for Gustav and I believe Jacquelyn is supposed to be his sister. The man playing Gustav is white.
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Post by mortinson51 on Nov 16, 2016 22:19:42 GMT -5
this is great. i have to admit Sunny is the cutest thing ever. (was it just me or was sunny from the movie never cute) The show is really reminding of the look and Feel of Pushing Daisies. which makes sense since its from the same team. Dr. orwell seems like she is the perfect. She will play the nice seeming person than once she is revealed she will be truly evil. Couple of images i had question about were Olaf in an egyption costume with i think the white faced woman. are we going to see olaf in more plays or is this from Marvelous Marriage.  Also i do think the trap door will be Jacquelyn. i have a theory that Jacquelyn will end up being Kit Snicker. but that is my mind basing it off of nothing  Another thing to note is that is the hook handed man at Lucky Smells Lumber Mill so i'm wonder if they are putting more Hetchmen in Each story then just the one  |
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Post by Mr. Dent on Nov 16, 2016 22:24:03 GMT -5
No, Gustav's sister is Sally Sebald- Unless they're going off book. I'm not sure who Jacquelyn is. I've heard some theorize she was Jacques, but I don't think that'd make sense, she could never be mistaken for Neil Patrick Harris.
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