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Post by Strangely on Dec 4, 2016 22:52:13 GMT -5
I would love it if Cobie Smulders is Beatrice. I've been figuring it's either them or the couple in the center, I kind of want to say it's Smulders and Arnett given that they're actually known and recognizable in comparison to that couple in the middle. Too, that couple in the center has the "perfect parents" look to them. So, it could go either way at this point. I could also see Smulders/Arnett as Kit/Dewey. Hopefully we find out soon.
Excited to hear about the theme song, it's definitely peaked my curiosity.
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Post by Skelly Craig on Dec 4, 2016 23:45:43 GMT -5
The most notable revelation is that NPH sings the opening theme and that the theme will change each episode. That could be either really cool and reflect the patterns found in the books' illustrations that change with every book (spine colours, frame motifs, foreshadowing to next book, etc), or it could be a horrible, too silly, no good idea. But I choose to be optimistic. Thanks for the update, zint! EDIT: Also on the Smulders/Arnett as Baudelaire parents issue, I vote/hope for no. I'd prefer them to remain as mysterious as possible, which could be achieved through unknown actors. If the actors are well known you are already imagining quite well how they'd act as those characters and it'd ruin the mystery. |
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Post by ironic impostor on Dec 5, 2016 0:12:16 GMT -5
Absolutely anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, as I very well could be, but wasn't the original film supposed to be a musical at some point in its long, weird, development process? Do you think there's any chance that idea could be being brought back for the series? I think it could explain some of the casting decisions (NPH as Olaf, obviously, but also maybe even Catherine O'Hara as Orwell, nobody else comes to mind immediately though I'm sure if I thought a little bit I could come up with at least one other example) and maybe even the general feel of the music that's accompanied the trailers. At least to me, and I fully admit that I could be alone here, the (orchestral) trailer music does kinda have a bit of a "someone could potentially break into song over it if they wanted to" feel to it, and even that Doris Day "Blue Skies" song obviously has a bit of a big band, swingin' feel to it.
Like I said, I could be wrong about hearing the original film might have been being developed as a musical at one point and I'm certainly not putting much stock into my theory that the show will do that even if the thing about the original movie is true, but just something to consider with the new theme song development. At the bare minimum it could be fun to imagine what ASoUE would look like as a musical in our heads.
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Post by mizbizsav on Dec 5, 2016 0:35:01 GMT -5
On a post about the convention, someone said they learned that they were playing the Baudelaire parents. *shrugs* Just wondered if that was mentioned somewhere I missed! The comic-con? Did they have a source to that quote? I'd be interested in seeing that. There was really no source or further information given, which is why I was wondering if anyone had heard anything about it here! This is the post: www.reddit.com/r/ASOUE/comments/5ggyx4/hopefully_well_get_some_new_information/daskzrv/It is questionable. It'd be odd if information about the Baudelaire parents was made public at the convention. I think they would be great picks, though. As someone said, the recognizable faces might ruin some of the mystery behind the Baudelaire parents, but I think they both fit. I especially like the idea of Cobie Smulders as Beatrice, who looks like she could easily be seen as both elegant and free-spirited. (Well, based on my version of Beatrice. In my interpretation, I always saw Beatrice as being a bit impulsive - living by passion, until settling down with Bertrand.) |
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Post by ryantrimble457 on Dec 5, 2016 1:30:14 GMT -5
Absolutely anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, as I very well could be, but wasn't the original film supposed to be a musical at some point in its long, weird, development process? Do you think there's any chance that idea could be being brought back for the series? I think it could explain some of the casting decisions (NPH as Olaf, obviously, but also maybe even Catherine O'Hara as Orwell, nobody else comes to mind immediately though I'm sure if I thought a little bit I could come up with at least one other example) and maybe even the general feel of the music that's accompanied the trailers. At least to me, and I fully admit that I could be alone here, the (orchestral) trailer music does kinda have a bit of a "someone could potentially break into song over it if they wanted to" feel to it, and even that Doris Day "Blue Skies" song obviously has a bit of a big band, swingin' feel to it. Like I said, I could be wrong about hearing the original film might have been being developed as a musical at one point and I'm certainly not putting much stock into my theory that the show will do that even if the thing about the original movie is true, but just something to consider with the new theme song development. At the bare minimum it could be fun to imagine what ASoUE would look like as a musical in our heads. It absolutely was. REAL early it was told through a musical puppet show (seriously). I don't know how long that lasted, but it was referred to as a musical in early press reports. Will try to locate soon. I bet they play up the musicality of the show, and I would be THRILLED if they did it as a musical. At least with some musical interludes. To be honest, I can already hear NPH singing "In...A Series of Unfortunaaaate Events!" over the trailer music. If the theme song thing is right, I'd bet they keep the tune but change the words each week. |
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Post by ironic impostor on Dec 5, 2016 2:00:51 GMT -5
If the theme song thing is right, I'd bet they keep the tune but change the words each week. Don't know if you've ever watched "Braindead" (it was a decent little show in my opinion, though I don't think it's likely to get a second season unfortunately) but they had a musician named Jonathan Coulton sing the "previously on" segment every week. I wonder if that'll basically be what's going on with the "theme song" thing NPH was talking about? |
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Post by A comet crashing into Earth on Dec 5, 2016 3:52:46 GMT -5
I find it oddly pleasing that we still say this in spite of everything. I have ambivalent expectations for NPH singing the theme. It's ambitious, but then, so is the whole project, and Pushing Daisies is all the better for its musical aspects, so I guess I'll have to put my trust in the creators. Actually, what I'm most surprised about here is the fact that there'll be words in the theme song at all. I guess I was just expecting music. I agree about Arnett and Smulders being slightly too famous to play the Baudelaire parents, although it's not something that would bother me a lot. I just really hope they aren't Jerome and Esme; I like both NPH and Smulders, but I don't want Barney and Robin playing Olaf and Esme. There'd be too many associations to override. |
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Post by larina on Dec 5, 2016 5:54:41 GMT -5
If the theme song thing is right, I'd bet they keep the tune but change the words each week. Don't know if you've ever watched "Braindead" (it was a decent little show in my opinion, though I don't think it's likely to get a second season unfortunately) but they had a musician named Jonathan Coulton sing the "previously on" segment every week. I wonder if that'll basically be what's going on with the "theme song" thing NPH was talking about? Braindead had Jonathan Coulton sing in it? Now I want to watch it! Reminds me of the musical TV Series Galavant, it had song recaps as well. It also had lots of fourth wall breaking, too bad it was perhaps too weird and silly to get decent ratings. Hope ASOUE doesn't suffer the same fate. |
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Post by Hermes on Dec 5, 2016 7:56:42 GMT -5
Blackadder Part 2 had the theme song changing each week - that was the closing theme, though, which commented on the events of the episode; I think the opening one was just instrumental.
Having Jerome and Esme in a VFD photograph would mess things up considerably. I still think it's likely they are either the Baudelaire or the Quagmire parents, and I favour the theory that we aren't meant to know which.
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Post by larina on Dec 5, 2016 8:10:15 GMT -5
Blackadder Part 2 had the theme song changing each week - that was the closing theme, though, which commented on the events of the episode; I think the opening one was just instrumental. Having Jerome and Esme in a VFD photograph would mess things up considerably. I still think it's likely they are either the Baudelaire or the Quagmire parents, and I favour the theory that we aren't meant to know which. Aren't Jerome and Esme members of VFD as well though? Or do you mean mess things up in another way? |
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Post by Dante on Dec 5, 2016 8:45:02 GMT -5
Jerome was never a member of V.F.D. and never knew anything about the organisation, although he was a friend of several volunteers. It's not clear whether Esmé was a volunteer or not, on the other hand. Of course, anything may change for the Netflix version.
It's curious that these musical hints should come out now, as I was just thinking yesterday about how they might handle the Volunteers Fighting Disease and Snow Scout Pledge songs. Of course, part of the point of those was that the songs were ridiculous and musical interludes didn't really belong. Pretty dubious about this idea.
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Post by Hermes on Dec 5, 2016 8:54:01 GMT -5
Yes, from Jacques' letter to Jerome in TUA it was fairly clear he was not a member of VFD; though of course that letter may be a forgery, like anything in TUA; but up to now there was no special reason to think it was.
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Post by ryantrimble457 on Dec 5, 2016 9:34:52 GMT -5
Don't know if you've ever watched "Braindead" (it was a decent little show in my opinion, though I don't think it's likely to get a second season unfortunately) but they had a musician named Jonathan Coulton sing the "previously on" segment every week. I wonder if that'll basically be what's going on with the "theme song" thing NPH was talking about? Braindead had Jonathan Coulton sing in it? Now I want to watch it! Reminds me of the musical TV Series Galavant, it had song recaps as well. It also had lots of fourth wall breaking, too bad it was perhaps too weird and silly to get decent ratings. Hope ASOUE doesn't suffer the same fate. GALAVANT! YES! Exactly. |
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Post by zinthaniel on Dec 5, 2016 9:42:59 GMT -5
I highly doubt the show will be a musical. The description I posted is a translated version of what was originally written in Portuguese, so there may be some misunderstanding or strange wording.
I wouldn't mind Olaf maybe singing in that he thinks the world is his audience and will break into song unceremoniously, but the idea of turning the story into a narrative where characters segue into musical pieces would be dangerously close to a deal breaker for me. I personally just would not be interested in that.
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Post by larina on Dec 5, 2016 9:48:34 GMT -5
Yes, from Jacques' letter to Jerome in TUA it was fairly clear he was not a member of VFD; though of course that letter may be a forgery, like anything in TUA; but up to now there was no special reason to think it was. It's been ages since I read TUA, don't remember any of this  Time to reread it. Then yeah, it makes little sense for the Squalors to be in the photo. Braindead had Jonathan Coulton sing in it? Now I want to watch it! Reminds me of the musical TV Series Galavant, it had song recaps as well. It also had lots of fourth wall breaking, too bad it was perhaps too weird and silly to get decent ratings. Hope ASOUE doesn't suffer the same fate. GALAVANT! YES! Exactly. So glad I'm not the only one to remember that little show  |
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Time to reread it. Then yeah, it makes little sense for the Squalors to be in the photo.
