|
Post by Reba on Jan 17, 2017 18:35:40 GMT -5
Somehow I have a feeling Seymour was tongue-in-cheek when he said that. (Though in principle Quisby is right ofc) Of course it was tongue in cheek. His race had nothing to do with his performance. nice save
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2017 1:07:43 GMT -5
Everyone was great. I had a difficult time watching Aunt Jo, the scene where olaf and the hooked handed man ran away from the mill was great. I am gonna miss Shirley. Btw great writing! bad writing and your dog is ugly
|
|
|
Post by Poe's Coats Host Toast on Jan 18, 2017 14:46:37 GMT -5
lol what's with the asshole act all of a sudden, pepper
|
|
|
Post by The Little Snicket Lass on Jan 18, 2017 15:25:02 GMT -5
If I had to guess its because of that silly contest thing.
|
|
|
Post by Seymour Glass on Jan 22, 2017 18:35:35 GMT -5
I felt that Joan Cusack's Justice Strauss seemed a little ditzy.
|
|
|
Post by Linda Rhaldeen on Jan 22, 2017 19:26:30 GMT -5
The book Justice Strauss seemed a little ditzy.
|
|
|
Post by Invisible on Jan 23, 2017 3:25:26 GMT -5
I didn't see any ditziness in the book, to be honest. I agree with Seymour on this occasion. I don't mind Joan Cusack at all, but I feel like she's about to spiral into an In and Out-style outburst. O.O
|
|
|
Post by meinhard1 on Jan 23, 2017 7:52:01 GMT -5
Unlike some here, I reached a point where I stopped seeing NPH, and a really great Count Olaf emerged. An overall entertaining, dynamic portrayal ... I personally liked the "bad actor" voice.
Ultimately I'd give this Olaf an 8.5/10 (ie far more than satisfactory), with potential to be even better in later seasons. Helequists' Olaf was much taller, with an overall more meancing appearance. If NPH were somehow taller and had less youthful features he could approach perfection.
I did find the Stefano comparatively weak, though not to say that it was bad. Really liked Sham and Shirley
|
|
|
Post by BSam on Jan 23, 2017 12:21:30 GMT -5
i feel justice strauss has to be a bit ditzy at least, otherwise being completely starstruck by the chance to be on stage is such a crazy turn for her character that where does it come from.
|
|
|
Post by zinthaniel on Jan 23, 2017 13:32:27 GMT -5
I loved everyone's portrayal for the most part. I love Alfr Woodard but her performance was a little on the nose at times, but ultimately the second act she really shined.
The children are a concern for me slightly. I am in the camp that believes their acting could use some coaching. They're not bad but I need more of a sarcastic bite from them and more dead pan delivery. This could be an issue of interpretation though - for violet I always picture a Mandy(from the cartoon Billy and Mandy) stoicism about her and Malina cheerfulness didn't really have that edge, but when she did turn that on I loved it. Perhaps as the series progresses and the orphans become a tad more jaded that character element will be more prominent.
Louis wasn't bad either though at times I wanted a bit more of a natural line delivery. Ultimately, towards the end of the series there was a marked improvement. I could tell that both were falling into their roles more naturally.
|
|
|
Post by Snicket For Beatrice on Jan 24, 2017 7:34:14 GMT -5
Generally speaking, I adored everyone's portrayal. Especially Patrick Warburton - I was a bit worried when I heard he was playing Lemony Snicket since I thought I was never going to hear him speak without hearing Kronk. Thankfully, I was wrong. Overall, really the only slight concern were the kids (Louis Hynes in particular) and that's just me being very picky both as a fan of the books and as a performer. They certainly seemed to ease into it after the first few episodes, and they did have some very clunky dialogue to deal with at times, particularly in their introduction scenes. Plus they were having to be the "straight-children" (a phrase which here means "required to act as dead-pan and serious as possible while everyone else is taking part in a scenery-chewing contest"), which can be tough enough for an adult, let alone for a kid. By the end, they pretty much were Violet, Klaus and Sunny to me (though I wish there was a way to up the quality of CGI-Sunny; the poker scene in particular was just awful-looking...).
With regards to NPH as Count Olaf, I admit it took a while to stop seeing NPH playing Count Olaf, particularly since they seem to be milking his musical talents for all their worth - as much as I enjoyed 'The Count' and 'Captain Sham's Song' it did feel as though the only reason they were in there was because "Hey, NPH can sing; everyone loves hearing NPH sing; we'll make NPH sing!". That said, I absolutely love his portrayal. He's goofy, yes, but I found it actually made the genuinely chilling moments he had all the more scary. The only minor quibble I have (and it's a weird one) is that I almost think he's too good at playing the disguises. It's pretty well established that Olaf is a terrible actor and that's true of the series as well, but there were moments (particularly as Sham and Shirley) that it seemed as though it was NPH playing the disguises rather than NPH playing Olaf playing the disguises. One of the best elements of the books that I found was that it was always so blindingly obvious that it was Olaf and the adults are just too useless to see it. I admit I don't know how it would be done without potentially backfiring on NPH himself but I would have liked to see a more "bad" portrayal of the various disguises. If that makes any kind of sense...
|
|
|
Post by Strangely on Jan 24, 2017 9:20:04 GMT -5
I really liked the person of intermediate gender. I was really wondering how they'd do this character as their handling in the books isn't exactly great, especially in a modern context. It took a rewatch, but I've come to the conclusion that this person is a man choosing not to identify gender as a statement rather than because they're transgender. Almost all of his lines are devoted to criticizing cultural standards.
The funny thing is that nearly everything he criticizes he's guilty of. He thinks money is corrupting, but he'll help steal a fortune. He's against marriage, but will help with a plot for someone else to force a marriage. He doesn't care about gender, but will dress up as a female nurse which is a pretty dated gender stereotype (Lucafont could have just as easily been a doctor). Plus he's pursuing a career in acting which is a line of work that often reinforces stereotypes. Ultimately his villainy is that he doesn't actually stand for any of the things he says he does.
Props to the writers, it's a very clever idea, certainly better than the books where the kids find the character scary due to the inability to discern gender.
|
|
|
Post by Grace on Jan 26, 2017 13:05:59 GMT -5
The Poes were my favorite. ^ someone described Mrs. Poe as "horribly tactless" and it's so true, you can see the actress is just having a blast. The kids can't really act yet (meaning Violet and Klaus, Sunny is the cutest baby!), especially the girl who plays Violet, who delivers most of her lines in exactly the same way. Klaus at least you get the scene where he's hypnotized, so you get a bit of a break. But that said, the same was true of the early Harry Potter movies, and it made them better for it. One of my favorite celebrity quotes is Daniel Radcliffe acknowledging his early acting struggles, having watched them back: "I wouldn't call what I was doing in those first few movies acting."
|
|
calvero
Reptile Researcher
Qui voudra connnaître?
Posts: 23
Likes: 7
|
Post by calvero on Jan 26, 2017 21:02:44 GMT -5
I liked every character except for the hook handed man. He seemed way too dumb at times.
|
|
|
Post by Grace on Feb 6, 2017 20:13:04 GMT -5
The whole point of "black Mr. Poe" is that his skin color is irrelevant. He did a very good job acting, which had nothing to do with whether he was black or not. It's fairly inappropriate to say "I liked black Mr. Poe," as if his blackness had anything to do with him as a character or his performance as an actor. Anyway. Moving past that. I'd be remiss as F if I didn't point out that the reason people care about typically white roles going to people of color is that people of color are underrepresented in many fields including show business, so it's a big deal when it happens, especially when an actor as talented as K. Todd Freeman is given the opportunity to just NAIL a role like he does in the Netflix series.
|
|