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LO LI TA
Feb 21, 2017 21:01:43 GMT -5
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Post by Grace on Feb 21, 2017 21:01:43 GMT -5
What the F do you guys think of Lolita? I finally got around to reading it and I don't know what to think. There's a part of me (unpopular opinion) that thinks only a dirty old man could wax as lyrically and frequently about little girls' bodies. But the writing is really great -- arguably ahead of his time, and you can see where Handler was influenced. Unlike many of the classics I've read, I see why it's a classic. Thoughts?
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Post by soufflé on Feb 21, 2017 21:08:47 GMT -5
tbh i thought this thread title was referring to solfege syllables bc of the spacing
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Post by Grace on Feb 21, 2017 21:20:17 GMT -5
It should read LO 👏LI 👏🏻TA. Truly.
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Post by Reba on Feb 21, 2017 22:28:30 GMT -5
is good. nabokov's multilingualism was astounding. read pale fire + ada or ardor. i've also heard his memoir "Speak, Memory" is v good
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 0:10:33 GMT -5
there's legit a person i know called lolita and i had no idea that this existed wtf
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LO LI TA
Feb 22, 2017 8:11:59 GMT -5
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Post by Grace on Feb 22, 2017 8:11:59 GMT -5
there's legit a person i know called lolita and i had no idea that this existed wtf Ok where do you live
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Post by Poe's Coats Host Toast on Feb 22, 2017 9:06:42 GMT -5
btw what's your social security #
lol ita
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Post by A comet crashing into Earth on Feb 22, 2017 12:00:05 GMT -5
I remembered ralking about Lolita in the What are you reading? thread, so I went back to check what my elaborate, well-considered opinion of the book was back when I was still in the middle of it. I'm reading Lolita, and chapter 26 is brilliant. Well, those are words that I stand by; I distinctly remember liking that chapter, though I'm a little more vague on what it was about. Oh, haha. Just checked. There's a very Handlery thing there. Anyway, I agree with Grace. It's a really good book, but I was also rather uncomfortable reading it due to, well, everything in it. It's complex.
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LO LI TA
Feb 22, 2017 13:43:22 GMT -5
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Post by Grace on Feb 22, 2017 13:43:22 GMT -5
btw what's your social security # lol ita & your credit card # thx Actually though, I'm curious in what part of the world people are called Lolita but haven't deemed the book a classic.
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Post by Reba on Feb 22, 2017 13:50:25 GMT -5
it's not that, it's bc pepper is 14 and has never even seen a book
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 16:02:50 GMT -5
i live in australia and it's uncommon here too
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LO LI TA
Feb 22, 2017 16:58:41 GMT -5
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Post by Grace on Feb 22, 2017 16:58:41 GMT -5
Pepper asl are you actually 14 cause in that case you are almost Lolita
Wait I just realized you may be too young to know what asl means...
On a Lolita note though, I had a conversation with a friend recently where she insisted that Lolita was meant to be a satire, that we were not meant to take Nabokov seriously when his writing obsesses over the bodies of little girls. What do we think? I personally think there are ways to write about pedophilia that aren't pedophilic -- and Nabokov doesn't do that (it's also been suggested that he had relationships with young girls).
I read something a while ago, can't remember where, that suggested that most authors write what obsesses them and what you write (especially novels, which are the result of months, sometimes years of obsessive word-related labor) is what you're obsessed with and to some extent a reflection of yourself. The only example I can remember relates to Kafka and says that he felt like he woke up every morning as a monstrous vermin. I can only write about things that (usually I realize only retrospectively) I'm obsessed with. All this to say that I'm not particularly sympathetic to Nabokov or the text.
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Post by Grace on Apr 17, 2017 23:43:39 GMT -5
^ sleeping on this post smh
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Post by soufflé on Apr 18, 2017 0:05:35 GMT -5
ok wait who are you
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Post by Charlie on Apr 18, 2017 1:42:26 GMT -5
^ sleeping on this post smh Many who would otherwise comment on this subject, such as me, have not read Lolita, and so cannot reply. Those who have read Lolita presumably disagree with you on some fundamental level and don't wanna argue about whether some dead Russian is a pedo or nah based off speculation. Personally, I agree with the legal system on this one. It's one thing to have the guilty mind, which is of course offputting for such an icky crime, but unless he actually performed the guilty act, I don't believe we can or should discredit him.
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