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Post by twistedbrain on Dec 7, 2005 16:40:37 GMT -5
Don't you think the volunteers would be smart enough to know not to eat anything at Hotel D? After all, they knew it probably wasn't safe anymore. Even Olaf must know they have more sense than that.
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Post by Dante on Dec 7, 2005 17:09:29 GMT -5
Judging from the way they needed the Baudelaires to serve as flaneurs at Hotel D, and asked them to send a signal if it wasn't safe to hold the meeting, then it's doubtful whether the volunteers did know it wasn't safe any more.
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Post by twistedbrain on Dec 24, 2005 20:14:44 GMT -5
Not necessarily. Kit seemed pretty certain that things would go wrong. Maybe it wasn't her choice to send the Bauds, as in she thought it would be safer than waterskiing to a certain clump of seaweed, or joining Quigley in the air.
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Post by chabo on Jan 18, 2006 4:47:10 GMT -5
exscuse me if this has already been mentioned which it probalby has been but when i read the harper collins newsletter a few weeks ago it said that esme's Hor d'oeurves never arrived? in relation to the first post, what does this mean?
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Post by Antenora on Jan 18, 2006 7:57:00 GMT -5
The fact that the hors d'oeurves were never served means that the cocktail party plan didn't go through. I don't think it signifies anything much other than that.
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Post by chabo on Jan 19, 2006 7:55:04 GMT -5
but it says 'they never arrived' not 'they were never served.'
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Post by Antenora on Jan 19, 2006 8:08:13 GMT -5
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Post by jman on Feb 8, 2006 20:15:47 GMT -5
"That is indeed Beatrice"? What is indeed Beatrice???
P.S.: Don't forget about the Curry that was mentioned.
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Post by Dante on Feb 9, 2006 12:24:09 GMT -5
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Post by jman on Feb 10, 2006 15:13:00 GMT -5
Thanks Dante!
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Feb 10, 2006 21:47:08 GMT -5
Saying they never arrived would complicate things, but "never served" makes a whole lot more sense. Now one must wonder what is to be done with them now. Hopefully that faraway island Lemony mentioned in tpp has horseradish...
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Post by colette on Dec 29, 2010 8:07:32 GMT -5
It's interesting to speculate on the villains' plans for the cocktail party that never happened. Esmé said there would be "special hors d'oeurves" (TPP p. 87) and that the guests would not be able to see the surprises they had in store for them. I think that the special hors d'oeurves were going to be made from Medusoid Mycelium mushrooms. The guests would not be able to see the tiny spores. Another clue is that Colette's "chemist" disguise had a surgical mask, which would be useful in preparing the mushrooms. On p. 336, Hugo asks if the hors d'oeurves plan was still in operation. Oh, my God! How cruel were these three freaks! They are so evil! And my friend Joan tries to help them in her novel! She loves freaks! But Why?! What do others think? Can we rcconstruct anything else about Olaf and Esmé's original plan? |
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Post by colette on Dec 29, 2010 8:11:42 GMT -5
That would actually be a very good idea, and would explain why the freaks were holding the birdpaper (I'd wondered about that). Both ideas, that of the Mycelium and the "eating crow" theory, have their merits. I'm not sure if Olaf's really subtle enough to plant Mycelium in the hors d'ouvres, but I'm not sure if the villainous group are unsubtle enough to serve up crow. This is the only indication in the story that the crows actually fell onto the birdpaper instead of into the lake. Really, the whole sequence is absurd. 1) Using Carmelita to shoot the crows. We know that Esmé is an excellent harpoon shot (she can hit two falling notebooks with one shot). Why use an inexperienced brat for this? I would understand if it was Carmelita's idea and she insisted on it, but Olaf seems to have given her the idea. 2) The birdpaper strip is the width of one window, which is less that 1/50 of the total width of the building (100 rooms on a floor, 50 on each side). How could they expect that the crows could be shot just as they flew over the birdpaper? 3) Expecting the sugar bowl to fall into the funnel and not into the lake. The probability of the latter is far greater. I can see why Olaf might be bluffed into thinking this -- he seems to be losing more of his intelligence with each book -- but the Baudelaires? Violet knows mechanics and physics. Ha! Esme was stupid and freaks weren't clever too! |
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