The End: Official Information and Speculation

[Grace]

Hmm...O's assistant supply (lol funny term huh?) seems to be dwindling. Perhaps it'll disappear altogether. That could be wishful thinking however (die Aura of Menaceers!)

[champ103]

I like the idea that the Baudelaires will join Olaf, although they will not be evil. They've commited a lot of crimes as it is, yet they're not evil. I think maybe it'll turn out Olaf is the same, and they join him, although as a group they are villains, they're not...if you get me.

[jman]

Maybe, but I'm kind of hoping it ends well. Often Handler will have a book end relatively well, but kill off a character to say that it's sad. I hope that that's what happens.
Maybe the Baudelaires kill Olaf? They live in peace, but loaded with guilt...

[Jacques the Environmentalist]

Hm. Maybe the Baudelaires will help... tug Olaf toward the good side? Through the books Olaf has been progressively tugging the Baudelaires towards evil... Perhaps it will soon be the other way around. I mean here in tbb you have this villain who punches children and then kills people in the successive books with no remorse but then in book 12 you have this ridiculous villain who's saying "ha" too many times and "what else can I do?" when holding a deadly harpoon gun, he's changed.

[jman]

You know what, your right. We've seen a steady decline of evilness from Olaf.

[vksbaudelaire]

Maybe they pursuade Olaf to become good.

P.S If they he dosn't become good( or maybe he still does), he will get ripped to shreds by a wild animal( supposing the next book does take place on an island.) In TRR, Uncle Monty suggested that might happen, so you never know.

[lauren]

No...Olaf cannot become good...no that can't be right!!! Yes there was that line "What else can I do" (my favourite line in TPP by the way) but I don't think this justifies his actions enough for him to convert into a good guy...in my opinion it would ruin the books. The Baudelaires on the other hand, turning bad would be rather interesting

[Dante]

I don't think that Olaf should become good, but I do think he can perhaps become more sympathetic, both to the reader and to the Baudelaires - but essentially, I think it's his destiny to continue being villainous, and to oppose V.F.D.

[Juan Roberto Montoya De Toledo]

And I personally hope it stays like that.

[lauren]

Yes that would be awesome if Daniel managed to get his readers to sympathize with the villian

[volunteer]

It seems to be going that way, i personally thought olaf was dwindeling near the end, especialy in the harpoon chapter

[Deathly Hallow]

Where did you guys get the idea of an island and a law against removing its fruit?
I think the next book will be called The Detrimental Denouement for some reason.

[Dante]

For the love of the gods, do I have to quote it yet again? That's at least three times, including the one I deleted because it was right after I'd quoted the evidence. I'm not doing it any more times. If somebody asks again, I demand that you all order them to actually read the thread.

ffwf said:

pp.116-117 A group of female Finnish pirates invented it back in the fifteenth century…

Tomorrow afternoon, the semiretired amateur geologist has promised to put me in touch with current members of the F.F.P. so I can determine if there is any truth to the rumour that Violet Baudelaire came into contact with them on her way to Briny Beach for the third time. Interested parties might turn to Book the Thirteenth, assuming I live to write such a book.

p.153 A certain island has a law that forbids anyone from removing its fruit.

Please see my not to pages 116-117.

Handler says mid-TPP that the denouement is often the penultimate peril in a story, and that the Baudelaires' denouement was fast approaching, but that the end of their story was very far off - which is good enough evidence for me that the denouement occurred in TPP, when the tangled knots of their story are indeed laid bare and most of the characters are finished off (even if we didn't get answers to many of the biggest mysteries). So I don't think B13 will have anything to do with denouements, although I expect it to emphasise ends.

[Antenora]

Handler's talk about denouements and ends makes me wonder if the Baudelaires will actually die in Book 13, and if part of it will take place years later(like the Snow White example, in which the end of Snow White happens when she dies of a fever, long after she marries the prince).

[Dante]

Those denouement/end examples didn't look good for the Baudelaires at all, it's true. I never thought much of the possibility that they might die before, but now that there's something approaching evidence for it, I'm reconsidering. But really, everything's so confused now that I no longer hold any particularly strong views.