tr4962
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Post by tr4962 on Oct 28, 2006 11:18:58 GMT -5
We know that Beatrice is the baudelaires mother, in the dedication for book 5 it states that she had a grave. so if she died in the fire which burnt down the baudelaire house her body could have been lost, which suggests she may have died from other causes.
Please discuss
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Post by thistledown on Oct 28, 2006 11:26:21 GMT -5
For some reason, I think that she did. I know that there is probably evidence against that...but...
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Post by RockSunner on Oct 28, 2006 13:02:08 GMT -5
There;s the old issue that the fire was in the morning and Beatrice died in the afternoon. I had a fairly elaborate theory to go with "Beatrice Sank" in TBL. You can find it in my story "The Exttraneous End" in the fanfiction section.
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Post by queequegcaptain on Oct 28, 2006 22:08:09 GMT -5
I think that Beatrice is Mrs. Baudelaire. Kit's baby was named after Mrs. Baudelaire. In the fourteenth chapter of the last book it says about the baby "they could not say for sure whether she was reading the word out loud or merely stating her own name." The name of the boat is Beatrice, thus the name of the baby is Beatrice, thus the name of Mrs. Baudelaire (who's name is mentioned nowhere else) is Beatrice. Who agrees or disagrees?
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Post by snicketfilepg13 on Oct 29, 2006 0:29:01 GMT -5
No one disputes that Beatrice is the Bauds mom. We all confirmed this, but the question is did she die in the fire?
I don't think she did, but the Baudelaires would have said something if she died prior.
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tr4962
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Post by tr4962 on Oct 29, 2006 4:40:11 GMT -5
she might have escapede the fire, but died soon after
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Post by thedoctororwell on Oct 29, 2006 4:43:58 GMT -5
Well, I actually have a question... Take your LSUA, and re-read Sally Sebald's letter and the movie script...
The question is : WHO was in the ù^*-ing snowman ? Lemony ? That doesn't make sense, because he asked for information about the making of the film. Béatrice ? No, she MUST be dead. So... Who the heck was inside the snowman ?
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Post by RockSunner on Oct 29, 2006 15:54:13 GMT -5
I always thought the person in the snowman was Quigley Quagmire. I don't believe what he told the Baudelaires in TSS was the whole story.
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Post by thedoctororwell on Oct 30, 2006 2:04:25 GMT -5
I personnaly think that he was honest towards them, because he said a lot of things on Jacques wich can be verified in LSUA, like the Paltryville Fiasco. And it's not nice to accuse a dead person like that.  Well, maybe it was Jacques in the snowman after all. That stinks a bit, but it wouldn't be incoherent. |
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cyrus
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Post by cyrus on Nov 11, 2006 3:48:51 GMT -5
Beatrice ? No, she MUST be dead. Why? She can be still alive! Lemony can only THINK her to be dead! |
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Post by thedoctororwell on Nov 11, 2006 14:12:27 GMT -5
Yeah, yeah... But that would stink a bit, wouldn't it ?
If Béatrice's alive, that would mean that Lemony wrote the books for nothing, and that Béatrice never ever tried to see her children again. To be short, Béatrice could be alive, but that would be useless to the story and dissapointing.
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cyrus
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Post by cyrus on Nov 12, 2006 5:40:34 GMT -5
Why disappointing? Life is always better than death! And, as Baudlaires said, Beatrice could try to find them. But, because of different circumstances, she was not able to meet with Violet, Claus and Sunny.
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Post by Semesther, the Dolphin Vampire on Nov 13, 2006 19:48:40 GMT -5
I argee and Klaus is spelled with a K.
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Post by snicketfilepg13 on Nov 15, 2006 2:30:10 GMT -5
Bah, I really need to get myself the blank book and fill it will all these referable and random quotes, they may come in handy. Anywho, I was re-re-re-reading ASOUE, and when I came across TAA I found....*searches for page again*
'"Did your father die in the fire?" "Yes he did," Klaus said, "and my mother too."'. - pg 46 TAA
Alrighty, this confirms that Beatrice didn't die PRIOR to the the events in TBB. Therefore, she may have escaped, died later, and be put into a grave.
If Beatrice did die in the fire, would it be plausible to say that Lemony began writing these books years after they actually happened. Therefore allowing a grave to be made for the Baud mom?
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U T O P I A
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Post by U T O P I A on Nov 15, 2006 8:39:49 GMT -5
I think that it is extremely likely that Beatrice did, in deed, die in a fire (if not, specifically, the one which burnt down the Baudelaire mansion). Evidence for this is scattered throughout the series. One instance is the triptych of Beatrice which included a painting of a fire. Furthermore, many of the dedications to Lemony's lover do hint towards her being involved with a fire:
"For Beatrice-
No one could extinguish my love,
or your house."
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Well, maybe it was Jacques in the snowman after all. That stinks a bit, but it wouldn't be incoherent.
