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Post by jman on Jul 30, 2007 10:32:19 GMT -5
At a certain point in TE, it states that the Baudelaires realised that their parents really were dead.
How is this proof that they actually are dead? The Baudelaires had no more proof in TE then they did in other books that their parents were dead, so why did they suddenly "realise" it? It seems to me like a cheap cop-out by Handler. could the Baudelaire parents actually still be alive?
Can someone help me figure this out?
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Post by Persnickety Raven on Jul 30, 2007 17:20:32 GMT -5
I'd thought we went over this. In TSS Lemony said Bertrand is a dead as a doornob. And we certainly know Beatrice is dead. As to the Baudelaires just realizing that, I dunno. I'd have to read TE again to see the context of the quote.
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Post by jman on Jul 31, 2007 8:14:56 GMT -5
No your right, but the Baud parents could have died later, or not, whatever.
But how did the Bauds know?
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Post by Antenora on Jul 31, 2007 10:27:54 GMT -5
I assume this is the quote you mean: They [Kit and the Baudelaires] cried for the world, and most of all, of course, the Baudelaire orphans cried for their parents, who they knew, finally, they would never see again. Even though Kit Snicket had not brought news of their parents, her story of the Great Unknown made them see at last that the people who had written all of those chapters in A Series of Unfortunate Events were gone forever into the great unknown, and Violet, Klaus, and Sunny would be orphans forever, too. (Page 307)
I think the point of this passage is that the Baudelaires are realizing the finality and magnitude of death, and the general awfulness of the world, after they've been repressing their grief for so long-- it's an emotional scene, and not an informational one. It's previously been made pretty clear that both of the parents are dead.
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Post by jman on Aug 1, 2007 7:48:39 GMT -5
Yes, I guess so, but Beatrice of died later, no?
I mean, I don't care whether the parents died or not, but I want to get the facts straight.
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Post by thistledown on Aug 2, 2007 14:40:15 GMT -5
I am not sure...because Lemony once stated that the Baudelaire parents died in the morning and then later on he said Beatrice died in the afternoon. Then again, he could possibly be referring to the younger Beatrice dying in the afternoon, but I think that it was the older Beatrice...did that make sense or did I ramble? It might just have been a typo of his.
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Post by Spymaster E on Aug 2, 2007 15:05:51 GMT -5
He refered to that Beatrice as his darling before stating that, so he was talking about the oldewr Beatrice, I'll bet.
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Post by thistledown on Aug 2, 2007 15:35:03 GMT -5
Yeah, I didn't catch that! *grins* It'd be kinda wrong if he spoke about his niece like that.
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Post by violet on Nov 4, 2007 18:51:08 GMT -5
that part that said that they knew there parents were dead made me cry,it was written so emotionally (Handler has a slight talent for that).
And....
My thoery:
The Baudelaires went to the beach at 11:40.The fire started at 11:55.Betrand died.Beatrice was at who-knows-where,and came back at 1:00.She didn't see the fire,it wasn't big enough.She then parked her car in the garage.The fire went on the car as she got out and died.The fire department didn't come earlier because Olaf did something so it would take awhile to come.
The fire department came of course,but were too late-Mr.Poe,TBB.
Reason for Editing: grammer
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