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Post by beack on Sept 22, 2010 16:34:43 GMT -5
Hey everybody turn to page 98 of HH, while this was completly accidental one of the notes says "Sequal to Serenity". For those who don't know better it could be considered a refrence to the holy grail of science fiction geeks.
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Post by Dante on Sept 23, 2010 1:22:18 GMT -5
That's pretty uncanny, but it's definitely a coincidence. I think THH predates Firefly, let alone Serenity. It doesn't look as if there are any other Serenities he could've been referring to, which is a shame, as the set-up there is ripe for an allusion of some kind.
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the13end
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Post by the13end on Oct 12, 2010 13:47:11 GMT -5
Yes, in my current re-reading of the series for the first time in 3 years (I'm in TCC right now), I saw that and got extremely excited. I began thinking, "Oh my! Daniel Handler is a fan of Firefly and wants it back as well!" But, as I turned the book over, I saw where it was written on the back "(copywright symbol) 2001". As fans of Firefly, we know that Firefly premiered in 2002, a year later, and Serenity released in 2005. So, sadly, these things are not connected to each other.
However, I did find something else of interest. I don't know the page or chapter, but in THH when the Baudelaires find "Ana Gram" and think it's only a name, they begin listing the different assistants of Count Olaf. Sunny says "Orlando" which means "Or the one who looks like neither a man nor a woman." Since THH came out the same year as The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring, (2001) is this Daniel Handler's way of saying that Orlando Bloom looks like neither a man nor a woman when he's playing the elf, Legolas? Just a thought I thought I should mention.
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Post by Dante on Oct 12, 2010 14:13:14 GMT -5
It's almost certainly a reference to Virginia Woolf's Orlando: A Biography, about the life of an immortal sex-changing individual. Beats out Orlando Bloom by many years.
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Post by Sora on Dec 15, 2010 22:07:26 GMT -5
Oh that's quite clever. I've only just finished reading Orlando; it's a very apt allusion for the omnipresent and foolish sidekick.
Oh and just out of interest, did we ever workout what the anagram of Al Brisnow was for?
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Post by Dante on Dec 16, 2010 4:09:23 GMT -5
Lisa Brown, Daniel Handler's wife.
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Post by colette on Mar 25, 2011 1:10:26 GMT -5
But Orlando is a male name! And gender of that Count Olaf's henchperson is unknown!
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Post by Dante on Mar 25, 2011 3:10:33 GMT -5
But Orlando is a male name! And gender of that Count Olaf's henchperson is unknown! Take it up with Virginia Woolf. It's almost certainly a reference to Virginia Woolf's Orlando: A Biography, about the life of an immortal sex-changing individual. Beats out Orlando Bloom by many years. But in any case, it's just a reference, not a name; you have to remember that Sunny's words up to about TPP are meant to be complete gibberish, and the fact that they also conceal various literary allusions and references is an in-joke; they're not "canon," as such.
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Post by bryan on Mar 25, 2011 19:08:19 GMT -5
Off Topic, and this might have been mentioned before, but in TRR, doesn't Monty say something like, "never let a virginian Woolfsnake near a typewriter?"
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Post by Dante on Mar 26, 2011 3:09:54 GMT -5
Something along those lines; it would be Chapter Three or Four, I imagine. That would be another Virginia Woolf reference, and a rather more obvious one.
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