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Post by allegedly bryan on Jul 2, 2012 16:52:54 GMT -5
I was wondering, do you think an ASOUE movie reboot would be possible? Do you think it would be successful? I mean the last spider man movie came out in 2007, and a new one is being released soon (is it already out? I dunno).
The asoue movie came out in 2004, so that would be a 9 or 10 year difference if the series were to be re-released. The only problem though, and this is where the Asoue movie differences from the spider man series, or any super hero series really, is that unless the first 3 books were to be skipped, it would be basically the same movie (plot wise anyway).
Basically what I'm asking is if you think a reboot would be possible or successful or even something you would want to see. Would it be weirder if a sequel came out 10 or so years after the first movie?
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Post by Hermes on Jul 2, 2012 17:05:48 GMT -5
I think a sequel at this point would indeed be very odd. I mean, obviously they couldn't have the same actors - when just three years or so had passed there were ways of doing that, but no longer. So it would be confusing.
But I do wonder if a reboot would work. The problem is that, as I understand it, most people think of ASOUE primarily in terms of the film. So they would see a new film as a remake of the original film, and judge it by comparison with that. This is different from Spiderman, who had an existence of his own, in comics and old TV series, before a film was made of him. (So does ASOUE, of course - but while we know that, not everyone does.)
What I think might work is making a TV series of ASOUE - and then if that were successful they could make a film based in that.
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Post by Skelly Craig on Jul 2, 2012 17:35:47 GMT -5
Hmm... I'd be too concerned the producers would eff up ASoUE if it were made into a TV series. I just can't picture it as such, "dun-dun, last time on A Series of Unfortunate Events". The books don't have this TV-series-esque drama in them, and they'd have to change too much, probably even the (for a TV Show) too-long title. On a side note, I also don't remember that many actually good movies to come out of TV Series (only Star Trek, Spider Man, and Batman, which are completely different than ASoUE). The only director I could imagine making a good TV Series out of it would be David Lynch--think 'Twin Peaks,' but there hasn't been a show like that ever since (and aside the fact that it wasn't aimed at a family audience at all)
I, for one, think it'd be fantastic and perfectly alright if there'd be a sequel to the first ASoUE movie, but re-imagined by a new team of filmmakers. I mean that's exactly what Christopher Nolan did with Batman Begins and the following franchise. He didn't remake any of the older movies, in which there were different actors playing the roles and different scripts, he just continued the Batman legacy with his own interpretation of it.
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Post by Dante on Jul 3, 2012 1:57:06 GMT -5
Handler keeps on talking about it as something that occasionally bobs up as a possibility before vanishing again. I honestly think that ASoUE isn't a big enough property to qualify for a movie remake, especially not one designed to once again spawn a full series that might fail to materialise. If they found a way to rework the story to all fit in a single movie, quite possibly, but at this point we're probably better off transferring our interest to an ATWQ movie - which would be more feasible however you look at it. ASoUE just isn't a hot property any more, even if Lemony Snicket might soon become a household name again.
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Post by Skelly Craig on Jul 3, 2012 2:58:36 GMT -5
Never underestimate the lack of originality of today's Hollywood producers. One never knows what they might reach for...
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Post by Dante on Jul 3, 2012 3:05:40 GMT -5
There's lack of originality, but there's also box office returns. ASoUE only just made back its budget, didn't it?
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Post by allegedly bryan on Jul 3, 2012 3:27:26 GMT -5
Not sure, but it definitely didn't do outstandingly. I would actually prefer there to be no more movies. Actors from the first one are too old, and a reboot would be... weird to see, and probably unsuccessful.
I wonder if a tv series would do well. I imagine it would be a 13 or so episode miniseries, with hour long episodes or something.
I doubt any of these things would happen though. It's just nice to imagine. An ATWQ movie would be cool to see though, and more realistic as a movie franchise too, with only four books.
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Post by Kensicle on Jul 3, 2012 3:42:44 GMT -5
Once upon a time, an ASOUE TV series, comprising of 13 one hour episodes (like what simon is writing), would have been possible, I guess. ASOUE's episodic-ness lends itself to that format. But I don't think it would be very appealing. ASOUE's very bookish, if you understand what I mean. It's not really screen material.
ATWQ, on the other hand, seems more like screen material. However, I fear that they'll turn it into a watered-down, more childish version of Sherlock Holmes.
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Post by B. on Jul 3, 2012 4:36:41 GMT -5
There's lack of originality, but there's also box office returns. ASoUE only just made back its budget, didn't it? I read somewhere that it didn't make enough money, and wasn't as successful as they thought it would be. When they made the movie back in 2004, were the imagining a sequel and suspecting it to take off? As much as I would love for there to be a TV series of thirteen one hour episodes, it looks unlikely. But to be honest, it's always been a sort of private fantasy of mine. When I was younger I used to play out scenes in my head, and imagine advertising and promotions. An ATWQ movie looks more likely- although how would they make it? A movie per book, or all four movies made into one film? |
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Post by Kensicle on Jul 3, 2012 5:12:21 GMT -5
An ATWQ movie looks more likely- although how would they make it? A movie per book, or all four movies made into one film? We can't really tell until the books are published, but I doubt that each book will be able to sustain a movie of its own. |
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Post by Christmas Chief on Jul 3, 2012 7:14:03 GMT -5
The later books might have just enough sustenance for their own movie. But in the case of the early books, I agree; some combination or improvisation would be necessary.
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Post by MisterM on Jul 3, 2012 12:28:08 GMT -5
When i saw the origonal film i imagned six films, something like this
film 1 - books 1, 2, 3
2 - 4, 5, 6
3 - 7, 8
4 - 9, 10
5 - 11, 12
6 - 13
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Post by Dante on Jul 3, 2012 13:13:50 GMT -5
That would be a best-case scenario, but very few franchises are ever popular enough to get that many films. Harry Potter may have gotten eight, but that's clearly an exception; ASoUE, sadly, was never quite such a blockbuster. The graveyard of film adaptations of books is littered with those which never got past a first installment. For which reason I'd genuinely consider leaving it five years and trying to conflate all four ATWQ books into a single film.
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Post by Skelly Craig on Jul 3, 2012 19:55:55 GMT -5
With four books in ATWQ, IF they should adapt them into a movie, they'd make two films, I think. With ASoUE they combined three books and that already came out a little jumbled, in my opinion, and may or may not have contributed to the underwhelming box office numbers. And these days family movies are required to have potential for at least one sequel, I feel.
When it comes to children's book movie adaptations, Harry Potter is not alone, though; The Chronicles of Narnia, which are as old as Lord of the Rings (!), were also adapted into three movies in recent years and they're planning on another one. (And, of course, there's the Hunger Games, which I haven't read nor seen. Though these are pretty new books.) (oh, and please let's not mention Twilight, because f*ck that - Snicket's got nothing to do with this kind of mindless cr*p for the masses)
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Post by Old Swinburne on Jul 4, 2012 12:27:14 GMT -5
If they do make another ASoUE movie, they should think carefully about their target audience- we don't want another Jim-Carrey-Olaf. One interesting idea would be a new story made especially for film by Snicket himself, possibly about the VFD schism or something.
I'm only throwing ideas at a wall to see if they stick, you understand.
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