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Post by Dante on Aug 14, 2012 9:46:09 GMT -5
--- ...Are you kidding me? It seriously was the typewriter?
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Post by B. on Aug 14, 2012 9:59:47 GMT -5
Qwerty is referred to a sentient thing in the "Where has all the ink gone?" promotion, and we've seen Lemony talk to quite a few objects so far in the book (the masks, the statue in The Lost Arms) so it would make sense for him to about a typewriter as if it was a living thing.
I'm assuming this is Moxie's typewriter- it looks like it could fold into a box.
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Post by Christmas Chief on Aug 14, 2012 10:00:34 GMT -5
So "looked at me" was some form of personification? Also, why give a typewriter as obvious a name as Qwerty?
Edit: Also, if Lemony is calling the typewriter "old-fashioned," what might he consider modern?
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Post by Kit's tits kick ticks on Aug 14, 2012 10:47:58 GMT -5
Qwerty is referred to a sentient thing in the "Where has all the ink gone?" promotion, and we've seen Lemony talk to quite a few objects so far in the book (the masks, the statue in The Lost Arms) so it would make sense for him to about a typewriter as if it was a living thing. The other thinks he talks to both have a face and in "Where has all the ink gone" he also describes Qwerty's face. When I look at the picture the typewriter looks like it has a face, does anybody else see this or are my eyes kidding me?
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Post by Dante on Aug 14, 2012 10:52:56 GMT -5
For convenience's sake, let me repost this here: Edit: The subject line could be misdirection, though - bear that in mind. If there's no misdirection here, there certainly was in "Where has all the ink gone?"
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Post by Hermes on Aug 14, 2012 10:53:45 GMT -5
I don't think anything he's said forces us to see Qwerty as the typewriter. It's just a suitable headline for a remark about typewriters. Edit: Also, if Lemony is calling the typewriter "old-fashioned," what might he consider modern? Now that is a question. I'm guessing that since the events of ASOUE, computers in Snicketland have become more advanced and can now be used for writing. (He's writing this book now, even if the events happened long ago.)
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Post by Antenora on Aug 14, 2012 11:50:03 GMT -5
Note also that this is the sixth Snicketmail that has used a simile of the form "X is like Y: [ambiguous predicate applicable to both in different senses]." However, we haven't seen any such similes in the first four chapters, and they don't seem like they'd fit with the less detached style which Snicket adopts for this book. So I wonder if they're being made up specifically for these messages. The earlier captions, however, seem more likely to be present in the book-- as the "Pressure?" one already has.
I suspect this subject line isn't naming the typewriter, but (like most of the recent e-mails) simply chosen as a relevant word or phrase. However, I wouldn't be surprised if a connection was made. Octopi are like typewriters: full of ink and sometimes exploited for sinister purposes.
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Post by Kit's tits kick ticks on Aug 15, 2012 3:40:39 GMT -5
We know that Qwerty has a face and can look at people, so he has to be someone or at least something, so first I thought it could be the typewriter on the picture that looks like it has a face. But the subect lines of the other e-mails never referred to the content, so it would be strange if it suddenly does.
Is there anyone else who didn't get the e-mail yet?
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Post by Dante on Aug 15, 2012 4:30:27 GMT -5
Is there anyone else who didn't get the e-mail yet? Some people have had them occasionally hours late, and my home e-mail address stopped picking them up at all a little while ago, so it's not unheard-of. You might want to try reregistering at LemonySnicketLibrary.com if they haven't arrived by twenty-four hours after it's first posted here.
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Post by Kit's tits kick ticks on Aug 15, 2012 16:20:07 GMT -5
I'm so stupid, I just checked my spam mails and there it was! But thank you, Dante.
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Post by Poe's Coats Host Toast on Aug 16, 2012 15:49:30 GMT -5
Triumph! I was right all along, back when I posted my first post as a Guest on these forums. (Well, I guess I am right... Qwerty could be still unrelated to the typewriter, but I think it seems more and more apparent that it is.) Can I cross-post this from the "Where the hell has all the ink gone" topic? It seems relevant in this one again, and I think some people may have not read it: I think this message is to be interpreted in a more poetic way. I don't think Qwerty is the octopus at all. Qwerty is a synonym for the common keyboard layout (wiki it), thus I think it's just another word for "typewriter." The octopus is just a humorous cartoon referring to the presented question (although Mr. Snicket might have thought that people who don't know what Qwerty is, would falsely assume he's 'Qwerty,' trying to mislead his readers as usual). So, if we assume "Qwerty" is just another word for "typewriter," its "face" would mean the paper/page rolled into the machine. And "Qwerty" isn't looking at the narrator, but the narrator's looking at Qwerty/the typewriter; it's just a rethorical device, personifying the typewriter, and with that, further misleading the reader. Now we are left with something that makes quite a bit more sense: "I looked at the typewriter, the page in it as blank as one of those extra pages in the back of a book for notes or secrets." And then the question that arises from this discovery: "Where has all the ink gone?" This means that the narrator expected to see something written on the page in the typewriter ("notes and secrets"), as he knows that he himself (or someone else) has been writing on that typewriter, and didn't finish writing. Now he finds the page blank. And the presented question is only logical, after discovering something like this. A possible answer could be, that somebody stole the page, together with the confidential informatioan written on it. Well I just did. But I still think this makes sense, and I stand behind my theory. I don't know if it's Lemony's typewriter though. Also, why give a typewriter as obvious a name as Qwerty? I don't think it's that obvious. What should've the typewriter been called then...? Like, Jeffrey or something?
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Post by Dante on Aug 16, 2012 15:51:55 GMT -5
If I had a typewriter, I'd call it Tpyo.
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Post by Poe's Coats Host Toast on Aug 16, 2012 16:20:01 GMT -5
Good one ;D Maybe a little hard to pronounce though.
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Post by csc on Aug 16, 2012 17:13:51 GMT -5
I usually don't give names to inanimate objects. Keep the good old sanity in shape.
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Post by Christmas Chief on Aug 17, 2012 9:55:57 GMT -5
Also, why give a typewriter as obvious a name as Qwerty? I don't think it's that obvious. What should've the typewriter been called then...? Like, Jeffrey or something? Well, it's a bit like naming a dog "Puppy," isn't it? It just isn't very original.
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