indyrams
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Post by indyrams on Nov 16, 2013 11:27:19 GMT -5
Just my personal ideas.
1. Make the films more mature, closer to the tone of the books, tone down comedic stuff unless absolutely necessary.
2. Continue the 3 books a film style.
3. Bring in adventure. I loved the books so much was because of the adventures the Baudelaire's had going to various crazy unique places.
4. Advertise the mysteries very well. Part of the series is the mysteries that unfold throughout the story. Make that a significant part of the plot and trailers for the film.
5. Get great actors designed for each role. Big name or not. That way they can continue the whole series appropriate to the real time.
6. Don't cut around the story and make it confusing for the book readers of the series.
I think if they could, they could advertise the Baudaires story in the trailer to bring interest to watch the films of people interested in likable main characters and family etc. And use the VFD story to bring in people who would be interested in mysteyr, betrayal, and crimes. Sort of like James Bond meets Extraordinary League of Gentlemen.
I doubt a film will ever rise again since they didn't jump on the opportunity to continue the series after the 2004 film. But the books are still here, and still provide great material to develop into an incredible film. It's just finding that person who wants to take a chance on it and see if it can do great or not.
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Post by Dante on Nov 16, 2013 11:52:24 GMT -5
I think that, if they were to continue the films, they might be better off doing some weird metafictional thing where they deliberately diverge from the events in the books, thus creating actual suspense rather than leading up to a conclusion we've known inside-out for seven years. Such a series would remain in the spirit of the original books and feature a lot of the same places, characters, and plot points, but recombined to create a fresh storyline and conclusion.
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Post by The Duchess on Nov 22, 2013 14:43:56 GMT -5
I want it to be in stop-mo.
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Post by Dante on Nov 23, 2013 3:53:53 GMT -5
Claymation was one possibility raised for a sequel, now that the original actors are too old for their roles; Handler mentioned an idea somewhere to have every installment in the film series done in a different style. If the series had actually been in a position to continue and go through with it, that would have been pretty amazing.
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Post by MisterM on Nov 25, 2013 1:44:06 GMT -5
i think... is to late for a sequel now. If there was another film. it would have to start from scratch.
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Post by Dante on Nov 25, 2013 3:55:30 GMT -5
It would be ten years since the first film by the time any sequel came out. Too long a time, I fear, for a sequel, and yet too short for a reboot. Still, we're talking hypotheticals here. We don't have to be realistic.
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Post by Strangely on Dec 26, 2013 14:24:50 GMT -5
You know, I've finally come to the conclusion they should just keep the same cast and make the sequel. Emily Browning and Liam Aiken are still playing teenagers on film, so they might as well come back. If the ages of Violet and Klaus were shifted to 17 and 15 respectively than they'd still be believable in the parts. All they'd really have to do is explain that years have passed since the first movie, they could even begin the movie at the end of the Miseable Mill just to show they've been having misadventures in the meantime. Granted Sunny would definitely have to be recast, but the change in time would make her at least four or five and on screen that may be more convincing than just a baby doing all the things Sunny does.
Honestly I think rebooting would be a mistake at this point. The first four books are the most repetitive and redundant books of the series, having three of them out of the way saves us time and will allow us to get to the better stories. Switching mediums might also prove to be an interesting idea, but I would still want to retain the same cast just to keep some continuity between films. It is a very visual book series, so doing different artistic takes on the books could prove interesting. Though I would rather it stay live action if at all possible.
I would start the sequel on the last chapter or two of the Miserable Mill, then have them be adopted by the Squalors. I would also have the Baudelaire's attending Prufrock prep while living with Jerome and Esme to save time. The expulsion story line in book 5 was a little bit nonsensical as it seemed ridiculous that Nero had the authority to give orphans away. And book 6 is actually sort of thin when you consider how much of the story is just spent with the Baudelaire's looking around the building and Count Olaf's presence is incredibly thin as well. So it wouldn't really be a lose to see those stories reimagined.
Ideally the plot would involve the Squalor's adopting the children and then having them attend school at Prufrock where they would cultivate a friendship with the Quagmire's. Count Olaf would appear in disguise and would harass them during the day, leading the Baudelaire's and Quagmire's to plot to uncover his scheme. Then he would start showing up as Gunther at the apartment to plan with Esme. Count Olaf's plan would differ from the books slightly, disguising himself as Genghis waiting for an opportunity to take the Quagmires, and disguising himself as Gunther so he could plot with Esme without Jerome becoming suspicious. The eventual result is pushing the Baudelaire's down the elevator shaft when they finally figure out Esme and Olaf's plan. Then the rest of the events of book 6 could happen as they occur in the book. Then I would do a condensed version of book 7 and end the movie with them on the run after saving the Quagmire's and falling off of the balloon.
Then the third film could handle books 8,9 and 10. I actually think 3 books per movie would work pretty seamlessly from book 8 onward since each book only ends up covering days rather than weeks or months as the earlier books had. So really 4 movies could cover all the books. Granted it would end up deviating from the books greatly at times, but honestly that fails to bother me any longer. Never will there ever be a movie that is 100% accurate to the book, so I feel like I can live with deviations that are added in the interest of trying to combine the books. Plus these books don't lend themselves to movie form due to their episodic nature and overly detailed plots, so really this is about as good as movie version could ever really be. A television show would probably be the only real way to adapt these books as they are written on the page, so for a movie version I can live with deviations.
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Post by Dante on Dec 26, 2013 16:18:34 GMT -5
I like those ideas, strangely; finding creative ways to rework the books we have is practically a dead certainty as they just don't work on film due to how episodic they are. They'd either be not quite long enough if you tried to do a full and detailed movie on one book, or barely recognisable with the compression you'd need to fit in three or maybe even two. To be honest, what interests me most about movie sequel discussions are people's ideas about how to reinvent the plot of the books to fit. If Handler was working on it, I'd actually even be okay with a completely new plotline spinning the movies off into a fuller version of their own continuity.
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Post by Skelly Craig on Dec 26, 2013 23:59:34 GMT -5
Yes, those would make for practical and good changes for a sequel, strangely.
And I just realized that the Coen brothers would actually be the perfect directors for another ASoUE film adaptation. Their offbeat humour and style (eccentric characters, noir-ish cinematography, frequent use of voice over narration; and they've already re-adapted a book with True Grit, also featuring a child protagonist) fit the series' tone as well as Helquist's illustrations in my opinion. Knowing their filmography it wouldn't even be out of place for them to do this.
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Post by Teleram on Dec 27, 2013 0:50:48 GMT -5
The Coens will be a great choice to direct an ASOUE movie. It would be more serious and gothic than the 2004 version, but still funny and kid-friendly enough to capture the books's atmosphere.
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Post by bandit on Dec 27, 2013 2:45:54 GMT -5
When have the Coen brothers ever made a kid-friendly film?
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Post by Skelly Craig on Dec 27, 2013 4:14:24 GMT -5
The Hudsucker Proxy is great and rated PG, just like the ASoUE movie. They've also made at least three PG-13 movies (including True Grit). So, yeah.
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Post by Teleram on Dec 27, 2013 12:04:59 GMT -5
Don't forget Raising Ariona, that was a family comedy, I believe.
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Post by M David Steel on May 24, 2014 13:50:14 GMT -5
Or just change some things - they could show the baudelaires actually leaving their mansion, saying goodbye to their parents and going to the beach, after a while it could begin to rain, they rush home, and find the mansion in ruins and then they head to the bank to consult Mr.Poe.
it would make all the difference if things were done in new ways like that
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facelesscreature
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Post by facelesscreature on May 24, 2014 14:21:25 GMT -5
The best way to make all of the LS books possible with the same cast would be to make about 4 seasons of a live action TV series. That way 3-4 books could be told in a single year. Also would be great if they included flashbacks from ATWQ books and UA, and even TBL. Hollywood should make THAT happen. Also, in a live action series, they could introduce as many VFD members as they want with more details than the books actually give the fans of the series. The show could an amazing drama series for young and old viewers. Just keep the material faithful to the books, but go into extreme detail on every character. I also think they would have to make changes to the overall story, but it would be a fantastic show with humor, adventure, and suspense.
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