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Post by lsandthebooks on Sept 1, 2019 17:13:26 GMT -5
The Baudelaires, the Quagmires, his unrequited love for Beatrice, the Unauthorized Autobiography, etc.
Could it be possible that Lemony made up everything to get rich? All he would have to do is call the Daily Punctilio and tell them any rumors he wanted. The Baudelaire and Quagmire kids, and Mr.Poe, may not even exist...and Lemony could even have fabricated the VFD transcripts and letters and anything else.
Lemony would have gotten rich from writing ASOUE. After all, he only wrote ASOUE to clear the Baudelaires' names after they were slandered by the Daily Punctilio articles. When the real truth, is that Lemony called the paper and had them write stories on people who don't exist. All so he could become a world renown author off of the Baudelaire story.
Is there any way this could be true? I was wondering because someone else had a similar idea to this, and that sparked a new idea for me: Why would Lemony want to betray VFD? His books ultimately make VFD look really bad. Since Lemony claims to be on the run, why would he make himself into even more of a target? Why would he make his organization seem so weak and helpless to their enemies? And why, would he publicly reveal any of VFD's top secret information and codes?
Maybe ASOUE is a money making scheme that Lemony's VFD superiors told him to write. I always thought it was odd how untrained and helpless children would survive a mansion fire (like the Quagmires) but not their VFD trained parents...Or like how the untrained Baudelaire kids keep survivng Olaf, but their guardians died so easily.
You could argue that the mansions burning down would be seen by a lot of people in the street, but the whole town/area is controlled by VFD. They literally own everything (I'm talking about the noble and the evil sides of VFD). If they wanted to stage something, it wouldn't be hard. What if evil and noble and schisms don't even exist, and it's all just a game...?
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Post by Foxy on Sept 3, 2019 6:56:11 GMT -5
I think Daniel Handler made up everything to get rich.
I don't think TDP would write an article about people who don't actually exist. They may get a lot of stuff wrong, but I don't think they could be that wrong.
I think he would be willing to make himself into a target to defend the children of the woman he loves because he is a noble person. I think the revealing of codes and top secret information is kind of humorous and part of the world of fiction.
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Post by Hermes on Sept 3, 2019 7:08:40 GMT -5
I think Daniel Handler made up everything to get rich. Yes, that's what I thought. In a way, this theory is clearly true, because DH made up the whole story, and making money was at least part of his motivation. But there's a general problem with the idea of an unreliable narrator: they can be unreliable about specific things, but if they are unreliable about everything, we lose a sense of what the story is: of course, in the real world, it's all made up, but in the story, some parts of it have to be true, or we have nothing to hold on to. You get in quite a few places (TPPuzzles is perhaps the most explicit) the idea that the secrets of VFD are actually quite easy to find - they are protected by the fact that villainous people won't be looking in the right places (since people who read a lot are noble). L's constant warnings not to read his books are among other things part of the way he protects his secrets.
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Post by Foxy on Sept 3, 2019 7:33:19 GMT -5
I think he would be willing to make himself into a target to defend the children of the woman he loves because he is a noble person. I think the revealing of codes and top secret information is kind of humorous and part of the world of fiction. You get in quite a few places (TPPuzzles is perhaps the most explicit) the idea that the secrets of VFD are actually quite easy to find - they are protected by the fact that villainous people won't be looking in the right places (since people who read a lot are noble). L's constant warnings not to read his books are among other things part of the way he protects his secrets. Yes! And then the reason Snicket would have the case published, even though he is revealing top secret information, and hiding it in plain sight but where villains will probably not look, i.e. in a book, is simply because he promised to do so.
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Post by Optimism is my Phil-osophy on Sept 3, 2019 8:09:44 GMT -5
I always argue for the stability of ASOUE to avoid falling into this text type. Daniel Handler made a point of creating a stable universe that proves that it exists with real characters in his universe, and a real story in his universe. And Daniel Handler made sure to prove it through TBL and LSTUA, and 13 shocking secrets. LSTUA was not written for the general audience of Lemony's universe. It is a secret book, which would not lead Lemony which character to make any profit. That is why I believe the LSTUA documents were not tampered with. What would be the point of tampering with a secret archive that should not be made available to the general public? Although some photos may have been tampered with, if this happened, the photos were tampered with before being attached to documents. There is no evidence that the photos were tampered with after being attached to the document. TBL is made up of scanned documents from their original papers. TBL was also not a compilation intended for distribution to Lemony's General Audience. TBL confirms that Violet, Klaus and Sunny actually existed and had these names. Finally, the author of the 13 secrets pamphlet is not a character in Lemony's universe. The author is the person of our universe, Daniel Handler really. Through this pamphlet, Giving Handler practically confirms the legitimacy of the characters narrated by Lemony.
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