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Post by Reba on Oct 8, 2022 13:41:51 GMT -5
To Whom It May Concern: PDF please. Your most obedient servant, Bear Optimism is my Phil-osophy if you service me again i will give you a Bellerophon-style tip
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Post by Optimism is my Phil-osophy on Oct 13, 2022 12:34:35 GMT -5
I started reading today. And the first thing I think is that it would be interesting to have a book about the adventures of Kit Snicket.
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Post by Optimism is my Phil-osophy on Oct 13, 2022 18:24:16 GMT -5
Chapter 3: I liked how Lemony quickly resolved the Laudano issue as well as raised current hypotheses. This was really something like a detective story.
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Post by HAL 10,000 on Oct 13, 2022 20:00:47 GMT -5
Chapter 1: A female character who can’t cook is weirdly refreshing, since it’s always guys who’re depicted as sucking at it and honestly most of the men in my family are better cooks than me. Agree with Optimism is my Phil-osophy about wanting a book about Kit’s adventures. Cleo’s name would make more sense for Moxie since Clio was the muse of history. Chapter 2: The S stands for Silence confirmed. Are Zada and Zora twins? “Anyone who gives you a cinnamon roll fresh from the oven is a friend for life.”I agree. I had to look up what Schoenberg meant, it’s a funny name for a cereal. Beekabackabooka literally sounds like baby talk. Chapter 3: I'm not surprised that no one else buys that Schoenberg stuff. By Lemony's logic, no Snickethead, Buffy fan, Prydain fan, or Hazbin fan(to name but a few)is a stranger to me.
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Post by R. on Oct 13, 2022 23:38:59 GMT -5
Cleo’s name would make more sense for Moxie since Clio was the muse of history.
That’s what I’m always saying!
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Post by Reba on Oct 14, 2022 11:34:49 GMT -5
chapter 1: if i were DH's editor, i would tell him to completely rework that first paragraph so that he could just say "a kidnapping" instead of "a person who had been kidnapped." Bear's Verified Favorite Description: "There was a man named Prosper Lost, who ran the place with a smile that made me step back as if it were something crawling out of a drawer..."
chapter 2: "...but this is not an account of times when I asked the right questions, much as I wish it were." this sounds closer to parroting his ASOUE voice more than the ATWQ narration tends to do. "Beekabackabooka" has got to be the silliest thing in all of ATWQ. i feel perhaps DH regretted that ?1 didn't have any of the quirky PoMo-ish gimmicks that ASOUE is known for. here we've got a full page of synonyms, AND a blank pagespread, just in the first two chapters. overdoing it much?
chapter 3: Schoenberg Cereal is like an unusually bad Wacky Packages gag. i don't remember the solution to this mystery, but i know Ellington had 2 raspberry berets at Handkerchief Heights in ?1. i only remember this because i disliked the Prince reference. nice to see a reference to the greatest author alive, James Patterson.
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Post by Reba on Oct 14, 2022 11:39:45 GMT -5
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Post by HAL 10,000 on Oct 14, 2022 18:05:08 GMT -5
Chapter 4: How long did Lemony have a hypodermic needle in his pocket? Chapter 5: I know it’s meant to be an insult, but Lemon Drop as a nickname is weirdly hilarious. Chapter 6: Eew black licorice. “Who you are and what you read is private in a library” I think that’s part of why I like them so much.
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Post by Reba on Oct 15, 2022 9:02:58 GMT -5
chapter 5: Bear's Verified Favorite Deliberation: "I was thinking, is this the world? Is this really the place in which you've ended up, Snicket? It was a question that struck me, as it might strike you, when something ridiculous was going on, or something sad. I wondered if this was really where I should be, or if there was another world someplace, less ridiculous and less sad. But I never knew the answer to the question. Perhaps I had been in another world before I was born, and did not remember it, or perhaps I would see another world when I died, which I was in no hurry to do. In the meantime I knew only the world I was in."
although the contemplative moments of ATWQ are certainly intended to evoke the turmoil of noir narratives, there is very little irony present in this pastiche, especially compared to the tone of ASOUE. for better or for worse, DH is on his way here toward an unfiltered sincerity, where he is earnestly trying to strike up some kind of philosophical rapport with his juvenile readers, which of course culminates in the near-total non-fiction of Poison For Breakfast. whether this approach can have any kind of success, i guess only time will tell....
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Post by HAL 10,000 on Oct 15, 2022 10:09:00 GMT -5
Chapter 7: Les gommes is French for erasers. Someone being named Dander is tragic, no matter how annoying they are. There’s beekabackabooka again. Love the Pippi Longstocking reference.
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Post by Isadora Is a Door on Oct 16, 2022 3:11:58 GMT -5
I remember liking ?2 a lot more than ?1, but I think it's centeral mystery is the weakest. I also feel like this book sets up a lot of backstory that the last two don't really pay off adequately. Other than that, not too much to say on this one.
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Post by Reba on Oct 16, 2022 7:02:32 GMT -5
I remember liking ?2 a lot more than ?1, but I think it's centeral mystery is the weakest. I also feel like this book sets up a lot of backstory that the last two don't really pay off adequately. Other than that, not too much to say on this one. what did you have to say about Stain'd as a setting ?
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Post by Reba on Oct 16, 2022 7:59:25 GMT -5
the plot gets pretty thiccccc in chapter 7. this gets my heartrate up like nothing in ?1....
chapter 8: the fact that someone working for Hangfire picked up a package for Armstrong Feint seems to make it very obvious that Armstrong is Hangfire. are we expected to believe that although Armstrong is "being held captive" by a villain, he can still order some salsa off ebay, send a picture postcard, etc ?? although it would be just as funny if he got packages addressed to Mr. Hangfire. why does the Inhumane Society want the invisible ink recipe?
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Post by Isadora Is a Door on Oct 17, 2022 1:54:17 GMT -5
I remember liking ?2 a lot more than ?1, but I think it's centeral mystery is the weakest. I also feel like this book sets up a lot of backstory that the last two don't really pay off adequately. Other than that, not too much to say on this one. what did you have to say about Stain'd as a setting ? Thanks for reminding me. I think Stain'd has a lot of issues as a setting. In the first back the town seems relatively small, but as each book introduces more and more additonal settingsa and characters, the town seems to grow bigger and busier around us. I think this is isn't helped by the fact that the supporting cast also grows with each book, so whereas in ?1 Snicket is able to walk around town without seeing a single other soul, he now cant go anywhere without bumping in to people. Also, I dislike how some places are seeded right from the beginning, and other places seem to pop out of nowhere. And that journeys that took whole chapters in the first book take a few pages by the end of ?3 in particular.
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Post by Reba on Oct 17, 2022 5:51:13 GMT -5
the discrepancies are definitely a bit exasperating... but i think the fault lies almost all in the first book. the descriptions of the vacant, derelict town are totally overemphasized. LS shouldn't have met more people or gone in more places -- he should have simply seen more of them, without knowing about them till later books, which would have also contributed to the air of mystery, the town full of secrets, etc. but DH's creative impulse, and strength, is to be constantly inventing new places and characters. that's part of what makes each successive book better than the last, for me.
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