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Post by Dante on Sept 3, 2004 9:31:23 GMT -5
What about Olaf's. Olaf's Fire Department.
Edit: What is it with me and the second page?
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Post by ihavethesugarbowl on Sept 3, 2004 9:42:23 GMT -5
That would make sense... thats why he set everything on fire and also he probably set the bauds. house on fire so he could try to get there fortune. (cause there parents would die.)
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Post by i. on Sept 3, 2004 9:50:19 GMT -5
Yes, yes Olaf's would work.
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Post by MrBaudelaire on Sept 3, 2004 16:28:09 GMT -5
I don't think so...it sounds strange...he's a count, an actor, a pyromaniac...where's the time to have his own fire dept? and olaf having a fire dept is ridiculous in the 1st place. puh-leez.
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Post by ihavethesugarbowl on Sept 3, 2004 16:31:47 GMT -5
Maybe he faked acting... Because in the first book when he said his acting crew was coming over, His troupe did. I think then they were planning Count Olaf to marry Violet to get the Baudelaire fortune. Pyromaniac would make even more sense that he would have his own fire department.
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Post by MrBaudelaire on Sept 3, 2004 20:21:07 GMT -5
doubt it.
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Post by Dante on Sept 4, 2004 2:08:39 GMT -5
Did you even read my theory, MrQuagmire? It's a front that he uses to burn down the houses of his enemies - and, for that matter, the homes of those who join him.
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Post by Antenora on Sept 4, 2004 6:38:12 GMT -5
In TBB:RE, Lemony notes that "...The O in OFD stood instead for a person's name" I don't have the book with me, but I think that's pretty much the exact quote. Olaf's Fire Department is some sort of euphemistic name for his pyromanical troupe, I gather. They start fires, not put them out.
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Post by champ103 on Sept 4, 2004 6:41:07 GMT -5
So we know the O stands for Olaf, but how do we know the F and D stand for Fire Department?
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Post by Dante on Sept 4, 2004 6:44:03 GMT -5
"p. 8 "The fire department arrived, of course," Mr Poe said...
This was an official fire department, which despite hundreds of years of existence has not managed to stamp out fire completely. [Edited out uselsess rambling] Also, I have reason to believe that the O that appears on the official fire department insignia stands instead for a person's name."
"p. 18 They passed an enormous pile of dirt where the Royal Gardens once stood.
For more information on the destruction of the Royal Gardens, interested parties might turn to the following articles in The Daily Punctilio, the city's newpaper: "Arson Suspected in Destruction of Royal Gardens," by Jacques Snicket, and "Absolutely No Arson or Any Other Suspicious Thing Associated with the Royal Gardens, which Simply Burned to the Ground and Then Were Covered in Dirt Due to Wind, Says Official Fire Department," by Geraldine Julienne. [Edited out bench cup ring stain reference]"
"p. 35 "I can tell you that it concerns a poisonous plant and illegal use of someone's credit card."
Despite Geraldine Julienne's article in the The Daily Punctilio "No Poisonous Plants Were Removed from Royal Gardens Prior to Destruction, Official Fire Department Reports," I have reason to believe that the poisonous plant Justice Strauss referred to was removed from the Royal Gardens prior to its destruction."
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Post by champ103 on Sept 4, 2004 6:45:48 GMT -5
*waits eagerly in suspense*
The whole OFD thing confuses me: is it simply the same Olaf's side of the schism gave themselves?
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Post by Antenora on Sept 4, 2004 6:48:25 GMT -5
That's what I think it is. Olaf calls it a Fire Department to sound noble, and in a way it is one.
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Post by Dante on Sept 4, 2004 7:50:27 GMT -5
New theory time!
Are the Baudelaires being trained by V.F.D.?
Answer: They were.
I've already stated (in another thread) that there was probably a secret clause in the Baudelaire will, stating that the children should go to live with or very near to Volunteers or V.F.D. affliated organisations. Poe is laisssez-faire though, so he didn't care whether he sent them to somebody evil or not - i believe that he was a volunteer, but turned away from the organisation after the schism. Anyway, I move that some of these people were training them to see if they would make suitable volunteers, but then it went wrong.
Book 1: Count Olaf. He didn't care about V.F.D., and is an enemy of the organisation. He just wanted the fortune and some temporary slaves. Book 2: Doctor Montgomery Montgomery. He was training the children, educating them to be future V.F.D. reptile-carers, perhaps, but then Olaf reappeared to snatch the fortune. Book 3: Josephine Anwhistle. She and her husband were good volunteers, but after her husband's death, she became too afraid to do anything and may even have been trying to protect the children from the dangerous world of the volunteers. Of course, Olaf then showed up. If Josephine survived, perhaps she'll have changed her philosophy and chosen to live life as if every day were her last after her close escape, but this theory isn't really the place. Book 4: Sir. Sir's mill made green wood ("emerald lumber") for V.F.D. families and for some of V.F.D.'s old bases, so it constitutes a V.F.D.-affliated organisation. He himself is a jerk, though. Book 5: Prufrock Preparatory School. While probably not officially affliated with V.F.D., volunteers had probably infiltrated the school and were on the lookout for suitable candidates for taking. Note the presence of Ms. K. and the oddly-dressed librarian. Also, the library was probably funded by V.F.D. Book 6: Jerome and Esmé Squalor. Esmé probably was a volunteer, although there's some conflicting evidence here, but the Baudelaire tunnel led to 667, and there's a safe place above the penthouse. In my opinion, the Ersatz Elevator was not always ersatz - there was probably once an elevator there, probably accessed using a keycard or something, which could be used to transport people from the Baudelaire tunnel, the safe place, and the apartment block. Of course, all Esmé cared about was helping Olaf move the Quagmires, although she probably planned to help him get the fortune later. The Baudelaires managed to unmask Olaf and forced both to flee, though. Book 7: The Village of Fowl Devotees. The crows were V.F.D. carrier crows, and Hector was a volunteer sent to watch over them to make sure that the bad side of the schism didn't attempt to snatch them - Olaf had probably already put into action his scheme with the reptiles. Olaf was probably only there to attempt to snatch the crows, but then managed to kill Jacques and ruin the reputation of the Baudelaires as well - although he didn't get the crows. Or did he? Book 8: Heimlich Hospital. The Snicket File was kept here prior to its removal by V.F.D. to what was considered a safer place, although due to Hal's refusal to use paper clips they lost a page and a photo. Babs and Hal, though, probably knew something - see Babs' letter to Hal in the U.A., and Hal had seen so much stuff in all the files that he had probably realised that V.F.D. existed. Not that that matters. Book 9: Caligari Carnival. Madame Lulu a.k.a. Olivia, who ran the place, was a former volunteer who now gave people what they wanted, and was probably a little attracted to Olaf. She may have been in communication with K., and certainly was invited to R.'s masked ball, although she chose not to attend. Book 10: The Valley of Four Drafts V.F.D. headquarters. Destroyed prior to being reached by the Baudelaires and Olaf. Not much else to say. Book 11: A V.F.D. submarine. Looks like the Baudelaires will be thrown into a huge bunch of volunteers - maybe they escaped from the burning headquarters in the submarine. Either way, they'll probably learn masses about V.F.D. and they'll probably recover the sugar bowl, although I bet the Baudelaires won't have a clue what the evidence inside it means.
So, to conclude, the Baudelaires should have been trained for V.F.D., but then their lives were ruined by a greedy man and a lazy newspaper.
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Post by notebooks222 on Sept 4, 2004 12:04:25 GMT -5
New theory time! Are the Baudelaires being trained by V.F.D.? Answer: They were.... Book 6: In my opinion, the Ersatz Elevator was not always ersatz - there was probably once an elevator there, probably accessed using a keycard or something, which could be used to transport people from the Baudelaire tunnel... ERZATZ means replacement. (violet's rope)It's german The way you wrote it it sounds like you meant missing
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Post by MrBaudelaire on Sept 4, 2004 12:35:43 GMT -5
ok...maybe there is, as weird and twisted as it seems, an OFD...i read tbbre, but i refused 2 believe it...
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