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May 16, 2007 17:18:11 GMT -5
Post by Shelly on May 16, 2007 17:18:11 GMT -5
Hmm . . . just a thought . . .
When all the Horcruxes are destroyed, "His brain remains untouched" (or something of the sort).
Voldemort'd be expecting spells, right? So what if Harry closed his mind and got a gun?
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May 17, 2007 20:15:22 GMT -5
Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on May 17, 2007 20:15:22 GMT -5
Wasn't that the question posed in the first post, more or less?
I'm going to turn this thread into a general why? for HP. Just pose any question about why something did/didn't happen in HP. Example: If they've got veritaserum, why didn't they just use it on suspected death eaters like Avery, Nott, Crabbe, Goyle, and Malfoy?
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May 17, 2007 20:32:52 GMT -5
Post by PJ on May 17, 2007 20:32:52 GMT -5
As Snape says in at the start of the Blood Prince, at first, he didn't realize that Voldemort was still alive. And he also says that he didn't try and help Quirrel get the Philosophers Stone, because he didn't know it was Lord Voldemort behind it.
So, after the entire school found out, Snape would have known that Voldemort was still alive. So why didn't he go out to find him?
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May 19, 2007 20:56:26 GMT -5
Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on May 19, 2007 20:56:26 GMT -5
Or, perhaps more importantly, how did he convincingly answer Voldemort when he presumably asked the same question? He probably said he didn't believe Harry's story about the whole ordeal.
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May 21, 2007 0:19:55 GMT -5
Post by PJ on May 21, 2007 0:19:55 GMT -5
Or, perhaps more importantly, how did he convincingly answer Voldemort when he presumably asked the same question? He probably said he didn't believe Harry's story about the whole ordeal. Or plothole. Or that Dumbledore was suspicious of him. Or that he had no idea where Voldemort could be. Then again, Pettigrew found him easily enough...or perhaps Snape thought that Voldemort had died THIS time. I mean, all of the other Death Eaters didn't go out to find him afterwards, and they would have heard about it... Wait, are we even sure it WAS common knowledge that it was Voldemort who attacked him? Maybe they all just thought Quirrel was just trying to steal the Stone on his own steam. Dumbledore's assertion that "the whole school knows" is pretty ambiguous, though Harry's outburst during Umbridge's class "but he had Voldemort sticking out of the back of his head!" would contradict that.
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May 21, 2007 20:51:04 GMT -5
Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on May 21, 2007 20:51:04 GMT -5
Well it was voiced by Neville that Harry stopped Voldemort from getting the stone in the Hog's Head but then Neville is closer to Harry than most so that doesn't indicate that it's common knowledge. It's ambiguous, and there will always be plotholes. *tries to think of another question* If snape is as good as people say, why didn't he and Dumbledore obliviate all the death eater witnesses on the astronomy tower, heal Dumbledore, and have everything be alright?
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May 22, 2007 7:45:11 GMT -5
Post by PJ on May 22, 2007 7:45:11 GMT -5
If snape is as good as people say, why didn't he and Dumbledore obliviate all the death eater witnesses on the astronomy tower, heal Dumbledore, and have everything be alright? Because that would have resulted in Snape's death. And then the Death Eaters would still have killed Dumbledore. And Snape would also be dead. The way I see it, once he got to the tower, Snape didn't have any choice in the matter; his course of action was the best he could have done. Still, I'm not quite convinced as to why Snape agreed to perform the Unbreakable Vow in the first place. The last part of it, i.e. him agreeing to take over should Draco fail he could easily have declined doing, on the grounds that it's up to the Dark Lord to issue orders, not Narcissa Malfoy.
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May 23, 2007 21:33:39 GMT -5
Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on May 23, 2007 21:33:39 GMT -5
Oh shoot that's right. I'm stupid, I always forget about the unbreakable vow killing him. But you do have a point there. And it could also be asked that if Wormtail found Voldemort so easily, why couldn't an auror or Dumbledore or if he's good Snape have found him and somehow incarcerated him while the rest of the horcruxes were destroyed? I guess he could move through walls but if he were under ceaseless guard it would have worked, he was so weak...
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May 24, 2007 2:29:38 GMT -5
Post by PJ on May 24, 2007 2:29:38 GMT -5
Hmmm. I'm not so sure about that. Peter found Voldemort because of his affiliation with rats. He talked to them, and they told him that there was a dark place deep in the Albanian forest that killed lots of animals. Perhaps that's why Peter alone was able to find him? Because no one else had the advantage of being able to talk to animals? Hence neither Death Eaters nor Aurors would be able to locate him. Though Dumbledore also says that he has sources that told him that Voldemort is in Albania. Then again, Dumbledore isn't exactly just some common wizard.
And maybe Death Eaters have some Dark Magic way of finding Voldemort. Like, their Dark Mark gets clearer the closer they get to him, or something. Maybe they work in a similiar way to Harry's scar. Or maybe not.
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May 24, 2007 16:36:04 GMT -5
Post by Wizz on May 24, 2007 16:36:04 GMT -5
Isn't the Dark Mark supposed to burn or get darker ( cant remember which) when Voldemort is closer?
Thats how Igor Karrakof (is that how you spell it?) found out that Voldemort had returened at the end of GOF.
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May 24, 2007 21:07:46 GMT -5
Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on May 24, 2007 21:07:46 GMT -5
Nono, that's Voldemort's growing power, not proximity, that makes the Dark Mark more distinct.
I'm fairly certain that Dumbledore could have found Voldemort as we saw how good he is at sensing traces of magic, even dark magic, in the cave and such. Plus Mcgonogall's an animagus so she surely could have talked to some animal and found a way.
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May 26, 2007 1:00:14 GMT -5
Post by ferder on May 26, 2007 1:00:14 GMT -5
I was thinking that. But there are always plotholes like that. For instance why didn't Gandalf just fly in on an eagle and drop the ring into Mount Doom(There are satires about that actually). Tthink the reasoning behind the LOTR "plot hole" is that the eagles wouldn't be able to get close enough to the moutain without being attacked by the Nazgul on their flying creatures (though i guess the eagle's took out the Nazgul pretty easily in the movie). That was the explanation that Pete Jackon gave when he was wondering if fans were thinking the same thing.
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May 26, 2007 21:50:40 GMT -5
Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on May 26, 2007 21:50:40 GMT -5
I didn't mean to get us off topic.
Why didn't Dumbledore teach Harry advanced magic of the sort that'd be useful in combatting Voldemort?
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Jun 25, 2007 22:06:59 GMT -5
Post by sunnygal on Jun 25, 2007 22:06:59 GMT -5
maybe he didn't have enough time, i doubt that he thought that he would die so soon. he might''ve been planning to all this coming year.
how do we know Sirius is really dead?
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Jun 26, 2007 21:41:37 GMT -5
Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Jun 26, 2007 21:41:37 GMT -5
because we have reliable eyewitnesses who testify that he's dead. Plus he hasn't shown himself for a whole year and Sirius isn't the kind of guy to disappear from EVERYONE. Why can't the homorphus charm be used to cure all werewolves?
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