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Post by Liz Hollow on Jun 25, 2007 7:54:39 GMT -5
Okay, everyone. There has been plenty of debate over this particular subject, and there is a lot of evidence pertaining to both sides. The question is, though, is Harry a horcrux? Or isn't he?
What if Voldemort accidentally made Harry a horcrux the night of Lily and James' murders? He was preparing to make something a horxcrux that night, wasn't he? He wanted a special death for his soul to be ripped, and that was pretty special to him.
Killing curses do not leave marks, as you all well know. So, if that was the spell Voldemort used, why would it give Harry a scar? Not only did it do that, but it transferred some of his powers over to Harry, such as being a parseltongue, and even looking alike, as Tom Riddle pointed out in the Chamber of Secrets.
Except, I don't think that Harry is a horcrux, even if it was accidental or not. I don't know why I don't think he is, since there is so much evidence pointing toward that he is, but I don't. I think it too obvious. It would be a sneaky way of killing of Harry, but way too obvious. Unless someone comes around and tells Harry that he can get rid of the horcrux without killing himself. But still... I just can't believe that he is a horcrux.
What do you all think?
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Post by C. on Jun 25, 2007 7:56:45 GMT -5
I always suspected he was a Horcrux. I didn't think it was a scar, but I think it has something to do with his eyes. Like his eyes are green and the curse is green.
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Post by Liz Hollow on Jun 25, 2007 8:22:33 GMT -5
Yeah, that too. Because apparently there is something that is going to be revealed that has to do with his eyes, so that's true too. There is so much evidence pointing to that he is a horcrux. But I just don't want to think he is.
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Post by Wizz on Jun 25, 2007 10:54:20 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure we had this thread some time ago. Anyway, i dont think Voldemort would take the risk of making Harry a Horcrux... A. Because he would know that Dumbledore would probably be able to find out if Harry was a Horcrux....and..... B. If he knows he has to kill Harry...then why put a part of his sole inside him. Its suicide. Edit: Infact...i found the thread: asoue.proboards11.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=magic&thread=1136579435&page=1
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Post by Liz Hollow on Jun 25, 2007 11:09:36 GMT -5
Ah, well. I haven't been here for very long--well, I have. I just haven't come to this website because I was afraid of most of the people here. But since I've come, I haven't seen this... so, oh well. We can talk about it again! It's always nice to chat about it.
But what if it was accidental? Voldemort may not know that Harry is a horcrux. What if that happened?
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Post by Wizz on Jun 25, 2007 11:18:33 GMT -5
Well, seeing that the spell is probaly very complicated i dont think that would have happened by accident.
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Post by Liz Hollow on Jun 25, 2007 12:14:29 GMT -5
True that.
I love that more evidence is piling on to the "No" side. Because I really had none that supported that, which made me angry.
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Post by sunnygal on Jun 25, 2007 21:50:55 GMT -5
what if his scar's a horcrux? or what if Petunia is?
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Jun 25, 2007 22:03:26 GMT -5
Hahaha. Yeah we did have that old thread, I remember. Pretty please, try and search for such threads before you post a hotly contended topic, I hate it when duplicate threads pop up. No, he's not a horcrux I agree with Wizzz. I don't care what the mugglenet kids say in their book, the spell for a horcrux is ridiculously complex and precious few people know about it and it must be unspeakably difficult, there's no way it could happen by accident. And again, why make Harry a horcrux if you and your followers are forever going after him? It makes zero sense. Plus making him a horcrux again involves transferring part of your soul to the object in question, it might come in handy for possessing but it gives him a degree of power over you.
As to the scar and powers, when has anyone ever survived a killing curse? It takes a lot of power to make one, the power in that curse party stuck with Harry and partly reflected onto Voldemort. He didn't totally die so there was still some power left over so it had nowhere else to go but into Harry. I just completely made that up, but it makes sense.
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Post by sunnygal on Jun 25, 2007 22:09:52 GMT -5
*sighs* i hope the rest of the horcruxes arent hidden in ridiculously hard places to find
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Post by Liz Hollow on Jun 26, 2007 11:29:50 GMT -5
*sighs* i hope the rest of the horcruxes arent hidden in ridiculously hard places to find If they were, the book would probably be much longer. They can't be in that hard of places to find.
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Jun 26, 2007 21:44:53 GMT -5
Indeed. That's the rub with this last book, there's so much to do, and less time than in ootp to do it.
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Post by PJ on Jun 27, 2007 0:23:56 GMT -5
You guys don't really know anything about casting horcruxes, so how can you say whether they can go wrong or not?
The way I see it, Voldemort sets up the spell, so that at the climax, all he has to do is kill Harry, whilst holding the thing he wants to put the part of his soul in. Like, an old shoe or something. So he tries to kill Harry. The spell reflects, and kills HIM, instead. There has still been a murder, so the Horcrux should still be effective. But since Voldemort's soul has been ripped from his body, things can definately go wrong, so who's to say whether or not Harry has become the last Horcrux? I mean, there's a huge connection between Harry and Voldemort; they can read each other's minds, and Harry can speak Parseltongue. A bit strange, from just a killing curse gone wrong, no? How can you say for sure that the killing curse would result in such a bond, whilst you are equally sure that there's no way a horcrux could create such a bond? To me, it seems more logical that a horcrux would allow such a connection than a killing curse. There's no way of knowing for sure, we'll just have to wait another 3 weeks.
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Post by Liz Hollow on Jun 27, 2007 17:51:44 GMT -5
Wow. That was basically what I was thinking. I can just never say anything that I'm thinking because I fail miserably at doing so.
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Jun 28, 2007 22:04:29 GMT -5
*laughs* You say I know nothing about making horcruxes? Voldemort doesn't make horcruxes out of old shoes. (no offense meant) I'm not positive about it, but do you honestly think such a difficult and dark achievment could happen by accident? I do not. Slughorn said that the damage done to the soul from killing is used to encase the torn portion of the soul in an object. From that description it sounds like you must first kill before you make the horcrux, which doesn't fit in with the whole "he set it up beforehand" theory.
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