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Post by ice on Jan 29, 2004 22:16:53 GMT -5
This is about all the evidence I have left to support the "Beatrice is Mrs. Baudelaire" theory.
LS says the Baudelaire fire happened in the morning and Beatrice died in the afternoon.
Take a look at the LS calendar if you have it. Note that "The alleged date the alleged Baudelaire mansion allegedly burned down" is March 31.
Now, what if Mr. Poe, being Mr. Poe, was notified later that Mrs. Baud had survived the fire, but just barely? She could have had some rather nasty injuries from the fire and related activities such as escaping.
Go back to the calendar date I mentioned. Look - a Wednesday. Beatrice died on a Thursday. Putting this and the fire-injuries theories together, doesn't it seem possible that Beatrice survived the fire, but died the next day of injuries? After all, LS never said outright exactly how Beatrice died, but we do know it was fire, and he also never said whether or not she died immediately.
So...there you go.
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Jan 30, 2004 20:42:05 GMT -5
I'm going to try to do something I have not had the courage to do yet. I'm going to try, keyword try, to copy all the evidence I have that Beatrice=mom from the who is beatrice and what do we know about her thread in the crisis concludes, to here. This is gonna take a while.. Hope it works.
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Post by snicket4444 on Jan 30, 2004 20:47:10 GMT -5
the part were she died the next day due to injuries is incorrect. lemony states that she was swept out of the window by a giant eagle or somethin like that while she was having tea with esme. the Buads mom is lemony's sister K. i have evidence and ill post it later.
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Jan 30, 2004 20:55:51 GMT -5
Besides at the end of the rare edition notes there is a poem in French starting with La Beatrice. Who is the author you ask? C. Baudelaire, husband to wife poem because she died in the fire, perhaps that means he survived the fire. Anyway, I've translated it and it doesn't make much sense, I get the words cloud of a storm, funeral, and charred without greenery, I'll put my full translation if anyone really wants to see it. More proof for me. Yes I am very a-d-a-m-a-n-t about Beatrice being Mrs. Baudelaire. Why would Esme steal from the children in order to get revenge on Beatrice if she wasn't related to them? That's what doesn't make sense. Plus when Duncan was talking about Jacques Snicket if K was the mom their conversation would have been like this.
D: His full name is Jacques Snicket
V: That sounds familiar.
D: I'm not surprised. Jacques Snicket is your uncle!
Instead of how it went:
D: His full name is Jacques Snicket
V: That sounds familiar.
D: I'm not surprised, Jacques Snicket is the brother of a man who-
THERE THEY ARE! It just makes more sense for him to talk about their mom rather than Lemony so that's my opinion. Besides in LSUA it says in a letter "Of course Beatrice is far past complaining about lost possessions the very reason I'm sure u have dedicated yourself to researching those 3 children. Alright, if u discount my Beatrice-Mom evidence that has a red herring even close to it I've still got 3 good reasons why Beatrice should be the mom. 1) In LSUA the duchess of Winnipeg says in her letter to Lemony"Of course, Beatrice is far past complaing about lost property, the very reason I'm sure you have dedicated yourself to researching those 3 children" Why research them for Beatrice? Because she's their mom! 2) "I want to steal from you, the way Beatrice stole from me" Esme wants revenge on Beatrice, yet Beatrice is dead. So why would she take out her anger toward Beatrice on the Baudelaires? Because villains if they can't get revenge on the person often get revenge on their offspring. Why take out her anger toward Beatrice on 3 children who weren't related to her? 3) Lemony approached Beatrice because he hadn't seen her in 15 years. This corresponds with Violet's age of 14 cause Beatrice stopped seeing Lemony, married Mr. Baudelaire shortly thereafter conceiving Violet. There ya go!
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Jan 30, 2004 20:58:12 GMT -5
That's not all:
Lovely, I just came up with more evidence on why K is not the mom. K was an english teacher at Prufrock prep shortly after the bauds left, correct? Of course it is, anyway, if K had survived the fire and was the mom, what on Earth whould she be doing teaching english while the bauds were with an enemy(esme)? The parents obviously cared so much about their children, so K couldn't possibly survive, then teach english while her children went back to the city, doesn't make sense.
There it all is in one big mess, sorry if it's hard to understand, but at least people can view the evidence on the Sardonic series board now.
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Jan 30, 2004 20:59:41 GMT -5
For the __ time! Just because Beatrice had tea with Esme on Thursday does not mean she died on Thursday! Do not connect all that has been mentioned about her and think it's all in one day. She dying, having tea with Esme, and being picked up by an eagle were on 3 different days.
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Post by Luigi on Jan 30, 2004 20:59:45 GMT -5
the part were she died the next day due to injuries is incorrect. lemony states that she was swept out of the window by a giant eagle or somethin like that while she was having tea with esme. the Buads mom is lemony's sister K. i have evidence and ill post it later. Captiosus: *Opens mouth to speak, but then walks away* |
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Jan 30, 2004 21:34:52 GMT -5
In a way, I agree. snicket444 u don't exactly know as much about Beatrice as u should. As I said before, all those events happened separately.
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Post by DetectiveDupin on Jan 31, 2004 3:52:03 GMT -5
That's not all: Lovely, I just came up with more evidence on why K is not the mom. K was an english teacher at Prufrock prep shortly after the bauds left, correct? Of course it is, anyway, if K had survived the fire and was the mom, what on Earth whould she be doing teaching english while the bauds were with an enemy(esme)? The parents obviously cared so much about their children, so K couldn't possibly survive, then teach english while her children went back to the city, doesn't make sense. There it all is in one big mess, sorry if it's hard to understand, but at least people can view the evidence on the Sardonic series board now. K would teach at Prufock because it's a V.F.D. training house. She obviously heard the Bauds were there, so she rushed there, but then they were gone. |
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Feb 2, 2004 17:12:27 GMT -5
U could argue that, but if Lulu could find out their location so easily, so many times, why couldn't their own mother? K isn't the mom, Beatrice is.
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Feb 9, 2004 20:43:14 GMT -5
Commentary ended? Nooo! I need my supporters to help me out! It's a long battle trying to convince people!
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Feb 19, 2004 18:09:37 GMT -5
I really wish people would at least take a look at my loads of evidence rather than insulting me and some people throwing invalid arguements at me. It would save me time and a bit of annoyment.
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Post by Caterina on Feb 20, 2004 19:57:17 GMT -5
I dont have the evidence right with me, but didnt it say something about a dangerous bird picking up the Bauds Mom on Mt. Fraught?
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Feb 20, 2004 20:00:00 GMT -5
<sighs> yes! Jerome said something about her being picked up by an eagle in the mountains, but he I'm not sure if he said it was on Mount Fraught.
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Post by Efogoto on Feb 21, 2004 18:03:16 GMT -5
Pages 26-27 in TEE, Jerome mentions Mount Fraught and swooping but not eagles.
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