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Post by violet on Oct 7, 2007 16:30:35 GMT -5
in TEE,Esme and Olaf's plan was to put the Baudelaires in a net to keep tem away from the in auction and to take the quagmires out of the city.How does that help them at all?It doesn't help them get the baudelaire fortune,and they could have gotten the quagmires out of the city much more easily (they got the quagmires to the elevatar shaft,didn't they?).
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Post by Antenora on Oct 7, 2007 17:33:45 GMT -5
I believe Daniel Handler himself has admitted that he had to rush the writing of TEE, so elements of it don't entirely make sense. Furthermore, Olaf's plans are often more complicated than they need to be-- the "cranioectomy" in THH was unnecessary, as the troop could have just killed Violet upon capturing her and gotten it over with. His sense of theatrical drama(not to mention the narrative imperative imposed by Handler) might be preventing him from coming up with simple, straightforward plans. In this case, the villains might have been somewhat distracted from the Baudelaire fortune by the possibility of getting the Quagmire one.
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Post by fordxprefect on Oct 8, 2007 9:00:04 GMT -5
I like Antenora's idea. In TAA, it was the same way. Olaf's ineffable plan of making the Baudelaires run laps was a sort of second-stringer plan compared to the one he was working on, the plan to capture the Quagmires. I think once he realized the Quagmire fortune was easier to get, he focused more on it.
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Post by Sixteen on Oct 8, 2007 14:09:19 GMT -5
I agree that the plans are usually overly complicated, but there is a plausible reason for the elevator trap.
Esmé, being the city's sixth-most-important financial advisor, may have been needed at the In Auction. She decided to make the Quagmires part of the auction so that they could escape in the quickest time possible afterwards. The Bauds were kept in the shaft so they could be gotten later.
I know it's a stretch but it's the most sense I can make of the situation.
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Post by fordxprefect on Oct 9, 2007 8:36:54 GMT -5
Well, the only thing that matters is that it didn't work anyway.
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Post by violet on Nov 4, 2007 8:26:30 GMT -5
I agree that the plans are usually overly complicated, but there is a plausible reason for the elevator trap. Esmé, being the city's sixth-most-important financial advisor, may have been needed at the In Auction. She decided to make the Quagmires part of the auction so that they could escape in the quickest time possible afterwards. The Bauds were kept in the shaft so they could be gotten later. . you're probaly right about that.. and btw,in TPP Mrs.Bass stole some bags of money from the bank.It would be hilarious if that was the Baudelaire fortune,because Olaf had to waste so much time,had to use various disguises,had to make plans more complacated then they needed to be to work,and Mrs.Bass just takes the fortune just like that.Olaf would probaly be hitting his head for days if that happened (and if he was still alive..) |
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Post by fordxprefect on Nov 6, 2007 11:40:19 GMT -5
. . .hmm. . .violet, I think that would be hilarious if it ended up that way. But we never know if VKS are able to inherit their fortune, anyway. . .
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Post by thistledown on Nov 6, 2007 19:59:02 GMT -5
Yeah, the plot of TEE reminded me of the Adventures of Huckleberry Finn *shivers* In the way that everything was TOO complicated. I loved TEE, though, it is actually one of my favorites.
Oh yeah, does anyone know why Snicket had to rush it? Deadline or something?
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Post by violet on Nov 7, 2007 16:22:39 GMT -5
Yeah, the plot of TEE reminded me of the Adventures of Huckleberry Finn *shivers* In the way that everything was TOO complicated. I loved TEE, though, it is actually one of my favorites. Oh yeah, does anyone know why Snicket had to rush it? Deadline or something? my guess is that he was writing another book or,as you said,there was a deadline. |
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Post by Sora on Nov 22, 2007 16:11:35 GMT -5
I think it was around this point in Handler's writing of the books that they became longer, and more mysterious, but he was still being held to the schedule layed out for the previous shorter five books. Once he was free of having to produce 3 ASOUE a year, I think he took more time in analysing plot devices and ensuring the books were of top notch quality.
I do think its intended comical effect however, the OTT plans Olaf makes for himself. It makes for a far more interesting book than just, 'lets take the Quagmires and go'.
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