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France
Dec 27, 2004 13:15:26 GMT -5
Post by Libitina on Dec 27, 2004 13:15:26 GMT -5
I have noticed many connections to France in the series.
Winnipeg (Duchess of Winnipeg): Winnipeg is in Canada, which was a French territorial acquisition.
Versailles Post Office: Versailles is in France.
Baudelaire: This is a French name. (Charles Baudelaire, the poet who the Baudelaires are named after, was from France.)
Veritable French Diner: This one speaks for itself.
Jacques and Esme: These are both French names.
Edit: I also noticed that on pages 112 and 133 of LSUA, there is French at the bottom of the Prospero tickets. Also, thank you, Meg Andorra Corrupts Klaus, for the information about "Quagmire."
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Antenora
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France
Dec 27, 2004 13:23:01 GMT -5
Post by Antenora on Dec 27, 2004 13:23:01 GMT -5
A: Isn't there also a city in the US named Versailles? *searches* There's a bunch of Versailleses in America! However, I'm not sure what this proves, if anything. C: The French names don't prove anything either, except perhaps the French ancestry of the Baudelaires, or Handler's admiration of Charles Baudelaire, a great poet. A: Handler's a Francophile(a word which here means "a fan of all things French), perhaps.
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France
Dec 27, 2004 13:27:16 GMT -5
Post by Amphagorey on Dec 27, 2004 13:27:16 GMT -5
If you look at the picture of the bank in TBB the lady in the fountain is holding up a dollar sign. If they were in france, it would be the francs/euros(depending on when they changed) sign. They're in a fantasy america.
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France
Dec 28, 2004 21:12:10 GMT -5
Post by Meg Andorra Corrupts Klaus on Dec 28, 2004 21:12:10 GMT -5
Considering the lack of French culture as I am familiar with it and refernece to any sorts of things French except the few you mentioned, I seriously doubt that it takes place in France. I think that the Baudelaire's live in a fantasy world, but it's an Anglophone fantasy world.
The names don't really prove anyway. In Esme's case, the name Esme means "esteemed" which I think suits her personality better than fitting into anything doing to do with France. Baudelaire was taken from Charles Baudelaire, of course, but that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the fact that he was French. And Quagmire isn't a French name at all. It's a word, whose roots are in Old English (http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/wftwarch.pl?091404).
So, yeah. Definitely not in France, IMHO.
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France
Dec 28, 2004 22:44:22 GMT -5
Post by SnicketFires on Dec 28, 2004 22:44:22 GMT -5
On page four of the UA, the window has French words on it.
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France
Dec 28, 2004 23:12:48 GMT -5
Post by Libitina on Dec 28, 2004 23:12:48 GMT -5
Considering the lack of French culture as I am familiar with it and refernece to any sorts of things French except the few you mentioned, I seriously doubt that it takes place in France. I think that the Baudelaire's live in a fantasy world, but it's an Anglophone fantasy world. The names don't really prove anyway. In Esme's case, the name Esme means "esteemed" which I think suits her personality better than fitting into anything doing to do with France. Baudelaire was taken from Charles Baudelaire, of course, but that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the fact that he was French. And Quagmire isn't a French name at all. It's a word, whose roots are in Old English (http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/wftwarch.pl?091404). So, yeah. Definitely not in France, IMHO. I didn't mean that the series takes place in France; I meant that there are connections to France. I apologize for not clarifying that. What does IMHO mean?
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France
Dec 28, 2004 23:15:37 GMT -5
Post by SnicketFires on Dec 28, 2004 23:15:37 GMT -5
It means "In my humble opinion."
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France
Dec 29, 2004 12:21:58 GMT -5
Post by RockSunner on Dec 29, 2004 12:21:58 GMT -5
Another France reference: Lemony carries false business cards which say he is an admiral in the French navy. He once used one of these cards to escape from the castle of an enemy. (from TWW p. 57).
This suggests that the escape took place in a coutry other than France. The actual names and faces of the admirals might well be known to inhabitants of a castle in France.
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France
Jan 1, 2005 12:14:39 GMT -5
Post by Dante on Jan 1, 2005 12:14:39 GMT -5
If you look at the picture of the bank in TBB the lady in the fountain is holding up a dollar sign. If they were in france, it would be the francs/euros(depending on when they changed) sign. They're in a fantasy america. They changed it over quite a while ago. And the dollar sign could be an acknowledgement of the almighty power of the currency of the most powerful nation on earth even if the value of the dollar is pitifully low at the moment.
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France
Jan 5, 2005 4:39:16 GMT -5
Post by PJ on Jan 5, 2005 4:39:16 GMT -5
Lets not start another "where does asoue take place" thread. Besides, australia also uses dollars ;D Anyways, France is VERY strict about using english in their language. I even think it is illegal or at least discouraged to use english language on signs, or wherever the public can read them. So Versailles is most likely in america.
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France
Jan 5, 2005 14:49:05 GMT -5
Post by Libitina on Jan 5, 2005 14:49:05 GMT -5
This thread isn't trying to solve where the series takes place, it is simply making connections.
Versailles is only one example of a French connection. There are obviously others.
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France
Jan 13, 2005 23:29:44 GMT -5
Post by Phoenix 4242424242424242424242 on Jan 13, 2005 23:29:44 GMT -5
Versailles is only one example of a French connection. There are obviously others. Yes, quite true. To those of you who beleive that France is the location of ASOUE, would there really be a resteraunt in Frace called, Veritable French Diner. Why would they bother putting in 'French' when people already know that, seeing as they are in France. I believe that Handler situates the series in a timeless place of confusion and chaos, and unless you surface more evidence to support you claim, I'm sticking to what's best explained. Or more of, not explained.
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