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Post by Alfred is Present on Nov 19, 2005 1:29:45 GMT -5
Please inform me if this thread is to be moved or deleted.
Since I have little knowledge on how scenes in ASOUE look like, I would like to ask questions.
1) How does the Valley of Four Drafts look like? The Slope? Its view from the burnt headquarters? The peak where Count Olaf is in that book? The location of the Headquarters?
2) How could every floor in Dark Avenue Penthouse contain a door and a pair of sliding doors foe elevators, if the illustrations shows that the staircase is spiral? How about the cage where the Quagmires are? The elevator shaft's, and the quagmires hiding place, and the secret passage's location are confusing for me? Can you help me?
3) The buildings in Prufrock Prep are attached to each other in some manner, separated, or have reasonable spaces between them? So where's the field where SORE occurred?
4) I don't know how will I ask regarding the three buildings at TMM.
5) The Hotel Denoument's position between the pond, the shrubbery, the sea, and where Kit & the Baudelaires ate is where? So the hotel is beside the sea, in short the hotel is in the seashore?, but still in the city?
6) I can quite imagine Violet's lockpick in TRR. (off-topic)
7) The Main Hall of the Village of Fowl devotees, with the folding chairs and all that, How are they arranged? Platform, long bench (How does it look like?), and folding chairs, door?
8) THH's closet where Klaus 'n' Sunny decoded anagrams is a small one like a cabinet (?) or merely a small room? How about Hal's anteroom? Where do the things from the chute come from?
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Post by Antenora on Nov 19, 2005 6:19:30 GMT -5
1. I guess the valley would be basically a chasm between some mountain slopes, with four openings, perhaps in a cross(I think there's some mention of the four winds blowing through them, as if these drafts open in four different directions). 2. The spiral staircase could have a landing at the same place on every floor, I suppose. And the cage was in a room at the bottom of the shaft. 3. I guess they're separated, with the field being between some of them. 4. (placeholder) 5. The way I imagine it, the Hotel's on the outskirts of the city, which I think goes almost up to the sea. Not sure about the others.
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Post by mat on Nov 19, 2005 13:12:23 GMT -5
This is how I imagined the hotel:
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Post by RockSunner on Nov 19, 2005 14:00:37 GMT -5
I noticed there's no parking area. Probably all guests leave and arrive by taxi.
I would also say that the text trumps the illustrations. The illustrations are just the artist's impressions, and if they contradict the text they are wrong. The stairs at 667 Dark Avenue may not be spiral at all, for example.
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Post by Antenora on Nov 19, 2005 14:23:43 GMT -5
Also, I'm not sure how the pond could reflect only Hotel Denouement, and not any of the surrounding landscape. The hotel would have to be extremely tilted, or maybe its reflection only fills the whole pond from the angle the Baudelaires saw it at.
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Post by Dante on Nov 19, 2005 14:28:46 GMT -5
I think it's probably the latter - I can't imagine how else it would work.
Also, I agree with RockSunner - if the pictures contradict the text, then the text is right. Rather, the text is more canon, and quite often more accurate, as is the case with various costume changes. On a similar note, the most recent book is more canon than past books - if they were to return to 667 Dark Avenue, for example, and there was some reference that contradicted how it was described in TEE, then TEE would be wrong and the more recent book would be right.
Oh, and in general, I try not to imagine the settings too hard - I don't really have the focus to go through the text and note everything down, then try to do a picture to fit with it. This doesn't include maps of the general area, though (a few of us drew maps of the general aSoUE region, and the thread should be a couple of pages back either here in PPlaces or in AAutobiography).
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Post by Sixteen on Nov 19, 2005 15:23:14 GMT -5
I imagined the hotel only to be reflected because it was built like this:
O)I
The "I" is the sea. The ")" is the hotel (curved as you can see). And the "O" is the pond.
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Post by Alfred is Present on Nov 25, 2005 18:39:27 GMT -5
So, because of the references & statements, I've come to believe that Hotel Denoument is built on a seashore. Can you believe that? [/ludicrous] The Hotel is built on poor foundations. Anyway, I did believe 'cause the boat is quite near, so when they landed, the chute could have tilted and altered the direction, causing the boat to travel a bit farther, then at the sea.
So the in TSS, the mountains are many, yet 4 openings for the drafts. The Headquarters is in the middle, so in the valley. Then from there, you could see the slope, or you could walk to the slope. the water from there falls to a pool, which divides into two tributaries. So, how does a river wind up in a mountain? Like an inclined plane in a screw?
In TMM, its merely a small field, covered by wooden fences (?) then the three buildings are somewhat arranged.
How about the shrubbery? I don't think it'd [Hotel D.] be that far, with the conversation they had with Kit.
And the Main Hall at the Village?
I will ask no more about the THH ones. I'll just ask about Violet's lockpick in TRR and if you noticed that Dewey, Ernest and Frank have the initials D.E.F. (/ too off-topic, but seeks answers.)
I'll also look in The PPlaces and theAAutobio for more. Thank you!
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Post by SnicketFires on Nov 25, 2005 22:33:06 GMT -5
Oh, and in general, I try not to imagine the settings too hard - I don't really have the focus to go through the text and note everything down, then try to do a picture to fit with it. This doesn't include maps of the general area, though (a few of us drew maps of the general aSoUE region, and the thread should be a couple of pages back either here in PPlaces or in AAutobiography). The thread Dante is referring to is located here.
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Post by lauren on Nov 26, 2005 1:32:43 GMT -5
Here is my picture of the dark avenue apartments and the secret passageway The black represent the elevator shaft/ secret passageway, the spiral represents the spiral staircase and the grey/white/black moosh represents the ruins of the Baudelaire mansion. And I do not understand what is there not to get about the spiral staircase...I mean why can't it work...look here is a picture of one Just put a wall around each floor and attach 2 doors and voilà! the apartments on 667 dark avenue
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Post by Grace on Nov 26, 2005 12:23:45 GMT -5
667 Dark Avenue is awesome. Grace is random.
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Post by LargeManFeOrMale on Nov 26, 2005 15:28:58 GMT -5
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Post by Alfred is Present on Nov 26, 2005 18:37:19 GMT -5
Look, I appreciate all the help. Thanks! everyone and everything has been an enormous help for me.
The staircase (real life one posted by Ms. Lauren), that's the point. If I look at that, and immediately place a pair of sliding doors for elevators, and another door, for the room itself, then the doors would slightly be tilted. So will the whole floor, unless you could adjust the whole floor and just leave the doors tilted.
About the cage where the Quags have been. So the shaft is L-shaped, and the cage is in the intersection, where the horizontal, and the vertical line meet.
How about the others?
Well, thanks. But this isn't the end of the thread, y'know.
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Post by Sixteen on Nov 27, 2005 5:46:54 GMT -5
The town hall of V.F.D. is something like this. ,,,,,,,, ] ,,,,,,,, ] ,,,,,,,, ] ___ The commas are folding chairs, the platform is somewhere in the middle, the underscore is the doors and the brackets are the Elders' Bench.
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Post by Sugary Snicket on Dec 1, 2005 16:01:05 GMT -5
The folding chairs, I always imagined, were closer than that, and the platform was somewhere in the middle, as you said. I concur. And Lauren, this picture you drew cracks me up:
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