The Passion of the Christ

[Nate2632]

What do you think of this movie. I think it is a good way to reach others. People are saying its to violent, but that is the way Jesus was murdered. What do you think?

[Luigi]

Well, yes, I've seen clips.

However, I am most upset that Gibson refused to put a message about the Jews, that they're not exactly to blame, and he refused to do it.

[Luigi]

swans said:

Why should he? This isn't an anti-semitic film.

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They say it could cause major anti-semitism and people are overzealous and stupid about religion.

[Amphagorey]

Most critic's say that the amount of blood shed was way too much, and that you ever got to know Christ as a character. From what it sounds it's an hour of some dude getting the crap beaten out of him. If I wanted that, I would have rented a Jackie Chan movie. More comedy anyway. What ticks me off is that they made mechindise for it(mug's and such). Way to go and cheapen Christianity even more than it already is.

[Carly is Spiffy]

As you guys probably do not know, I am a Jew myself, and I do have a certain outlook on this film. I think that the people who veiw it as anti-simitic are either portraying the story wrong or they are afraid of reality. Mel Gibson is obviously a very devoted Christian and he just wanted to show his love for the Christian religion. What is wrong with that? I happened to be watching Good Day Live earlier because we are having out FIRST snow day this year here in Georgia, and the host is a Jew himself and he saw the movie, but didn't like it. It wasn't because of the religious veiws that he didn't like it, he just didn't enjoy the whole thing. He also claimed the "You have to be an anti-simite to walk out of that movie and anti-simite." I,myself, have not seen the film. But reality is, YES. Jesus was crusified, not because the Jews killed him, but because he died for all of our sins. If I made a mistake, please do not be angry, being that I am not Christian and know almost next to nothing about the religion itself, but in short, no, I do not beleive that the film is antisimitic.

[ponygirl's vapor]

I'm wondering, for people who aren't believers, could they be confused? It's only supposed to be the last 12 hours of Jesus Christ's life. Or does it have flashbacks or what have you to earlier events?

I was looking at the trailer, and I assumed the guy or girl who looked bald and had on that black cloak was Satan? If it was, they did a amazingly superlative job on him. Extremely captivating.

[Celinra]

I'm going to be seeing it Sunday, and I'm very eager to see it.
I also saw the Good Day Live thing. Another interesting point the guy made is that, aside from going in antisemetic to come out antisemetic, antisemetics would probably find something in the film to use as anti-Jew propaganda (like how people who listen hard enough can find 50 million clues to Paul McCartney's death in Beatles music). He said just seeing the movie wouldn't transform anyone into a Jew hater.
As was said earlier, the violence was necessary for an accurate portrayal. Back to the Good Day Live, the guy said he didn't like the violence, and for example, Jesus getting whipped or scourged or whatever it's called was only about 3 sentences and then they moved on. What he didn't realize, I guess, is that it takes a lot more time to show a thing than to just say it.
Not to mention the fact that crucifixion was the most painful way imaginable to die (that's actually where the word 'excrutiating' comes from... it was so painful they had to make a new word do describe it).

[Celinra]

And it wasn't just a regular whip... it had multiple strands on it, with sharp things (i.e. rocks) tied on the ends, so that his skin would be torn open even more (did they show that in the movie?).

*is hoping that the urban legend discussed at www.snopes.com/glurge/noface.htm will not have a resurgence*

[Nate2632]

For all of you who said its violent, it is probably miniscule to what probably happend to him in real life. As Swans said, its violent, because it is for the art. The Crusafiction was the worst death back then, that is why there is so much blood. He was on a cross for 6 hours, with a dislocated arm, and nails in his hands and feet. Do you expect him to have one drop of blood. Also, he was whiped 39 times (The Romans counted, because 40 whips kills you) they put a crown of thorns on his head, and they made him carry the cross up the mountain with people throwing rocks and spitting on him.

And he did this to save all of us. Mel Gibson made it that grapic to show exactly what Jesus went through to save us from an eternity of suffering that would be worse than the cross.

You shouldn't be ridiculing this film, and calling it to graphic. This is what happened. This Mel's way of showing it.

[BSam]

from www.pointlesswasteoftime.com

"The Passion" Divides Audiences...
2.25.04 by David Wong 885 Comments

...including critic Jami Bernard who stated "Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ is the most virulently anti-Semitic movie made since the German propaganda films of World War II," shortly before being struck dead by lightning.

"The film is, uh... a brilliant work of passion and faith," said critic Roger Ebert, nervously edging away from the blackened hole in the carpet where Bernard had been standing. "I... loved the, uh... two thumbs. Holy salsa."

"Gibson has made a serious, handsome, excruciating film that radiates total commitment," says Time Magazine's Richard Corliss, reversing an earlier negative review after an unrelenting plague broke upon his house and took the life of his firstborn son. "It's literally the best film ever made. Ever."

Many critics have complained about the gruesome violence and anti-Semitism in the film, as it apparently depicts a Jewish man being tortured and killed. The Hollywood Reporter also points out a rather major plot hole in its review, pointing out that "Indeed, it's doubtful any human being could remain conscious for his own execution were he to endure the level of physical abuse graphically depicted here." The article also notes a major continuity error that shows the same man walking around again just days later.

[ducky112]

I saw the movie last night, and i have to say it was one of the most intense movies I ahve ever seen. Besides that, it was completely Bibically acurate. For everyone saying that the movie or Mel Gibson is anti semetic, you are wrong. Sorry to be so candid. This movie is about Jesus, who was, by the way a Jew. For Mel to be anti semetic, he would have to be, in a way, anti christian, and he is obviously not. Also, it was the Jewih people (all of them, not just the pharisees) who played a major role in his crucifiction. You are correct in saying that it was Jeusus' plan and his will to be crucified, and as he said to pilot,"they had no power but that given to them by God,"but for God's sake, they were in Judea, and it wasn't just the romans that physically nailed him to the cross that were screaming for his blood, there were Jewish citizens there as well! It was their homeland, that had a part in the decision!There are also people saying the movie had sensless violanceand gore, but in all honesty, it wasn't in any way senseless. Mel had the movie made that way to get the real picture of Jesus' death across. It wasnt a nice little of trickle of blood coming down from the little crown of thorns as is portrayed in pictures. The Bible says Jesus was marred more that nay other man! The passion was an incredible movie that i bet had an incredible impact on a ton of people. My congradulations to Mel, and i sugggest that any one interseted go and see it...it's awesome.

[ducky112]

wow- i just had to add this. I guess movie critics are just stupid..or they ahvent read their Bibles before critisizing the film, but the reason Jesus was walking around three days later was because he was resurected. The Bible clearly states that three days after his death, Jesus was miraculously resurected!

[awpoue]

I thought it was a restricted movie, and you're only 14?

[ducky112]

yeah, my mom had to sing a release form for us to go (us being my friend, my brother, and I)

[BSam]

ducky112 said:

wow- i just had to add this. I guess movie critics are just stupid..or they ahvent read their Bibles before critisizing the film, but the reason Jesus was walking around three days later was because he was resurected. The Bible clearly states that three days after his death, Jesus was miraculously resurected!

i provided a link to the site i stole that from so you could could see it is a site less known for accurate journalism and more for teh funny and instant comedy gold...

anyway, yeah, just letting you know that it wasn't a serious post...