olaf did it!!!!Questions awnserd posibly.

[kingofvfd]

i think that olaf burned the baudelaires mansion.beacause in lg while olaf is leaving at the end of the book he says that not only is he responsible for murder but also arson.this is before ls even thought of v.f.d. so it couldnt be any of the many other places.i think LS was implying that olaf burned the mansion i hope this awnsers some questions

[Dante]

I think that Snicket probably did intend that Olaf burnt down the Baudelaire mansion, yeah - but what if he changed his mind later on? There's evidence to suggest he changed his mind about other things. But I agree that at the time he wrote TWW then Snicket was probably foreshadowing that conclusion.

[Ernist]

no he did not because inTE the baudelairs tell him the think he did and he said is that what you think if he had he would have bragged about it

[Dante]

Would he have bragged about it at that time in The End? As he lay dying, what seemed most important to him was denying the Baudelaires any kind of closure or hope for the future. (I think, if one were to try and slant it either way, though, it would make a more convincing denial.)

[ruthlesswriter]

When the Baudelaires asked Olaf if he burned down their parents mansion he said they "knew nothing". He didn't deny or confess that he did it. He did say in TWW that he was wanted for arson. But, if he was wanted for destroying the Baudelaire mansion, don't you think Mr. Poe, or a person from the Fire Department , or one of the various V.F.D. members they encountered would have told them? I admit, Olaf probably had some connection to the fire, but against all my gut instincts I think he didn't actually do it.

[Kount Kelsey]

Oct 15, 2008 18:54:48 GMT -5 ruthlesswriter said:

He did say in TWW that he was wanted for arson. But, if he was wanted for destroying the Baudelaire mansion, don't you think Mr. Poe, or a person from the Fire Department , or one of the various V.F.D. members they encountered would have told them? I admit, Olaf probably had some connection to the fire, but against all my gut instincts I think he didn't actually do it.[/qu ote] i agree with ruthlesswriter he must have sent one of his henchman and olof had planned the whole thing of course so the baudelaires would be sent to him and hwe could get his hands on the fortune

[t]

We don't know because LS wants us to believe him that Olaf did the arson not him so there is still the possibility that he (Snicket) changed the story.

[Dante]

Given that the only information we have to go on is that provided to us by Snicket, I'm not sure what there is to be gained by demonstrating his unreliability.

[Hermes]

Well, we know that Snicket is unreliable, because Beatrice comments that the Baudelaires' own accounts of events sometimes differed wildly from his. This is occasionally useful when confonted with apparent inconsistencies in the story; Lemony may have said what seemed most likely at the time, but later been proved wrong. However, I think his unreliablity is just the result of his working with limited information; there's no reason to think he is deliberately mispresenting things.

[Dante]

I would assume that Beatrice's comment in fact stems from the Baudelaires' unreliability, if I may quote Chapter Fourteen: "The baby had heard about danger, too, mostly from the register of crimes, follies, and misfortunes of mankind from which the Baudelaires read out loud each evening, although they had not told the infant the whole story. She did not know all of the Baudelaires’ secrets, and indeed there were some she would never know." One can argue that that's Lemony covering his tracks, but it parallels too closely the Baudelaire parents' decision not to tell their children anything about V.F.D.

[Hermes]

That's interesting: I hadn't thought of that interpretation. But does it fit 'there were some she would never know'? If this refers to stuff where the Baudelaires' account differs from that in the books, surely she did in the end come to know it, when she read the books. Certainly by the time of her contribution to TBL she knows about VFD. I think it just refers to the fact that we can never be told the whole of every story - not by the Baudelaires, and not by Lemony either.

[Kount Kelsey]

i dont think that olaf did it but his group.. and he will try to steal the money while the parents die

[annyyyaaaa]

When Olaf is classed as arsonist, it doesn't mean that he burned down the Baudelaire mansion. For example, he burned down the circus tent and the VFD headquaters.

However, in the film, Klaus sees his home in the glass he used to burn the marrige cirtificate. Not sure whether we an get any evidene from the film...

[Dante]

This was at the time of TWW, though, when Olaf hadn't burnt down anything - or rather, not on-screen, but with the backstory we have we can determine that he would probably have burnt down quite a lot.

[charlie000snicket]

i dont think olaf did it because it just seems so esay to think that he did.